Scam heads up for ALL vendors with web site contact forms.

Discussion in 'General Questions' started by KCvale, Dec 14, 2013.

  1. KCvale

    KCvale Motorized Bicycle Vendor

    Just a heads up to all the vendors here with an e-mail contact form on their web site.
    Seems the scammers have moved to targeting vendors in the Motorized Bicycle business.

    I almost never get scam spam direct from my web sites contact e-mail form but I have had 2 different ones in 2 days from 2 different Podunk 3rd world countries so I want to alert you not to fall for them, or better yet let 'em know what you think about them even trying to scam you.

    I won't bore you with the tech details of how I trap the actual real internet IP address the person filling out my web page form was using and how I include in my e-mail and how I can track it to where it came from, just suffice it say I am pretty good at it ;-}

    This my web sites form e-mail of the 1st one on the 12th.

    -----Original Message-----
    From: []
    Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 1:09 AM
    Subject: KC`s Kruisers Contact

    Form Information Submitted:

    WebSite: - KC's Kruisers
    Description: -
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    Facebook LIKES Provider
    Name - Karen
    E-mail -
    IP -
    The important things to note it is total BS as the major sites listed in both scams see that fake crap all the time and very adept at preventing it, it contains links you should NEVER click, especially the Unsubscribe, as I suspect you'll be screwed if you do but I am far to smart to click to find out, and because they had to actually visit my site to use my form (can't spoof it direct but again won't bore ya with the tech) so I can see where they are.

    That said here is my reply to that first one which names the country.

    Dear Karen the Czech Republic spammer,
    AKA: Barb da Builder

    I find it disheartening you actually went to my motorized bicycle web site for local customers just to use the e-mail contact form to try to scam me as you didn't happen upon it, you are trolling specific types of web sites, and at the moment it looks like are targeting all the little guys relating to bicycles.

    Your first mistake was you did not know I know where you were when you sent that contact form e-mail.

    I do not know what or where you trolled to find my business web sites link, but I know it wasn't a Facebook or Twitter business page as I don't have any.
    That was your second mistake.

    Why would I want to pay you for thousands of fake likes on non existent Facebook and Twitter pages or YouTube videos?

    Your final mistake was thinking that even the smallest of the small business owners in America where the Internet began would fall for this crap from backward ass countries anymore, nor would they do it even if it wasn't fake.

    You are trying to sell fake major social media site LIKES.

    Besides major social media sites being way smarter than you are so it won't work, not everyone is some sleazy lying Czech thief like you that doesn't seem to even know what words like honesty and integrity even mean and you will never get a penny from us, ever.

    That said perhaps you should go get a real job with at least some dignity because people like you are the **** on my shoes so bad I'd rather just toss the shoes in the trash as try to clean your stink off of them.

    Also note I am forwarding your scam spam to the Facebook, YouTube and Twitter 'report fraud' e-mail addresses as well as your web site provider (which link I did NOT click) and I will post this scam in all the social media sites you want to hurt to help expedite you giving up this useless way to make a buck which you'll never get a penny from me or most any other real American.

    In closing you began with
    "Hello, I am a professional social media business manager, obviously."

    Plenty of things were obvious in your scam spam but there is nothing professional about it, obviously ;-}

    Most every small business owner in America that is way past feed up with the scum on the Internet like you and fighting back.

    And thanks for making it so easy to track down who you are and contact you.
    Now you get see first hand what internet HATES are and all your internet contact info will become nothing but a place to get all the HATE until you are shut down for good.

    Ya, I rambled on with every insult I could think of a bit but hey, when I get an e-mail from a form on my business web site I am expecting a real life customer question or order not some mass spam to normal e-mail which my e-mail system takes care of itself, this was targeted direct to something they knew would clear spam blockers which to me is akin to walking up to my door and barging in my home to rob me.

    I dismissed that first as a fluke until I got this one from another 3rd world country in the same area today I have not replied to yet.


    Form Information Submitted:

    WebSite: - KC's Kruisers

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    You can see it here: (copy/paste)

    The best part is ... this system uses
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    See it here:

    This email is intended for webmasters and was sent using the contact form on your site.
    Name - LynwoodJones
    E-mail -
    IP -
    Link -


    Well, that IP address the person was using to fill out my web site form is in:

    Republic of Azerbaijan (Azerbaijani: Azərbaycan Respublikası), is the largest country in the Caucasus region located at the crossroads of Western Asia and Eastern Europe.[5] It is bounded by the Caspian Sea to the east, Russia to the north, Georgia to the northwest, Armenia to the west and Iran to the south. The exclave of Nakhchivan is bounded by Armenia to the north and east, Iran to the south and west, while having a short borderline with Turkey to the northwest.

    It used to be Nigeria was the leader in scam spam's, remember the one's about someone wanting you to lauder hundreds of millions in the US for half?
    I actually had a long time friend almost fall for it but he called me and asked if it might be a scam and I saved him $10K.

    Anyway I guess even the dirt poor Podunk places like these have internet now and have nothing better to do with their time than try to scam greedy cheating gullible Americans so even you are one don't say you weren't warned.
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  2. grinningremlin

    grinningremlin Active Member

    Lots of Slavic countries are famed for pirating and such, what's sad is people are obviously still falling for these things else they wouldn't continue.I don't have your savvy on all the IP stuff but I learned never to click on jack.
  3. butterbean

    butterbean Well-Known Member

    Ever consider they might be spoofing their ip address? You can use a spoofed ip address or email to contact someone directly. Even if you report them, they will just get another ip address or another email address. You'll never stop spammers. They know it's illegal and that's why they spoof their ip address to look like it's from a 3rd world country. Just because you're good at tracking something on the Internet does not mean the person you think you are tracking isn't smarter than you. A lot of these people get paid just to send spam emails. You can't seriously think they're afraid of being reported?
  4. butterbean

    butterbean Well-Known Member

    For the record, I'm completely against spamming. But you'll never stop it. You spent more time tracking them, reporting them and sending them a pointless hate email than it took them to set up their fake ip address and email ,find your website and copy and paste into your contact form.
  5. LR Jerry

    LR Jerry Well-Known Member

    Yeah KC its as bad as the beautiful young Russian women who saw your picture and now she's hopelessly in love with you. Heck chances are it might not have even been a woman who sent it. LOL The way I see it there's plenty of women already here in America. Even setting phones and computers up to block spam some always seems to get through. Good job at catching them.
    Last edited: Dec 15, 2013
  6. KCvale

    KCvale Motorized Bicycle Vendor

    Of course, it is done via an open proxy server and can jump through many and undoubtedly a content copy/paste into my web contact form but you miss the point...

    The main thing was to just make you guys aware of the scam.

    My little tirade reply is just an insult to the sender e-mail address on the off chance they actually read it, it makes me feel better, and maybe it will shame them into stop trying to make money doing it.

    I don't bother reporting the sender e-mail address, I go after the one thing every scam web site has in common they can't hide, that is the web site domain name and more importantly the actual web server they want you to go to which is the whole point of the scam and it's heart.

    For example that first scam e-mails web site details:


    I have been doing my little part when I have time to make it uncomfortable for scamming web sites to make any money since there was a World Wide Web and pretty good at it.

    In this example Piata and Str Dorobanti that just bought a new DNS name they paid a year for a couple of weeks ago closed and depending on the hosting sever with thousands of web sites reacts may even find their server shut out of the Internet all together if they support this crap.

    What I do is way above fighting e-mail spam guys, I have that handled, things like these examples is about really screwing legally and financially with the *****s with the gall to invade my web site to try to steal from me the same way I would deal with a guy trying to pick pocket my wallet...

    Beat the living **** out them, get my wallet back and take theirs, then call the cops and have them arrested.

    'Nuff said.