Thanks for the photos ! I went to another local target and looked at the Jag again. I want to buy one in the box. I was told Schwinn employees came into the Target stores and assembled the bikes and put them on display. Man, if that's ture, I'd hate to see their worst builds. Those bikes are so crappily put together. Things like brake pads riding on the tires, not the rims. Somepoor sole that doesn't know anything about bicycles just might get killed on one of those crappy things. Anyway, I was told they will not sell me one in the box. I told them fine, I'd get one somewhere else, because I'd basicaly have to completely rebuild the bike anyway beacuse they weren't put together properly. And I want big white wall tires too. I noticed in your photos that you have them. Did it come that way or did you swap them out ? I'm also planning to take 2 plates, sandwich them around the bottom tube with 2 "U" bolts for the bottom mount. But on the other hand I still haven't totaly decided if I'm going to do a frame mount or a friction drive. I have the Grubee 50 in hand but it's not really appropriate for my Surbuban. So, if I use the Grubee, I'm going to buy another bike. On the other hand, I have another brand new engine on hand that will work with the friction kit and it will work on the Suburban just fine. Decisions, decisions !