Simpson Model 10 Production bike

Discussion in 'Whizzer Motorized Bicycles' started by MotorbikeMike, Sep 15, 2007.

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  1. Hi all, I'll make this a continuing thread. We will be recieving 2 bikes on Monday.

    These will be the "starter Bikes" for Tim and I. We will recieve 11 more shortly, and I intend to make sure everything is as planned on the new run. Everything will work correctly, using the 84760 rear belt.

    See if you can spot the differences between the Production Bikes, and the 08 production, 09 and 10 prototypes? There are several, and easy to spot!

    Here are pre-release pics of my 10 prototype drivetrain on a new Model 10 in the factory.


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  2. iRide Customs

    iRide Customs Member

    Wow! Looks great Mike! My latest one looks very similar to your model 10.

  3. MOdel 10 type northeast?

    Hi Dan, and thanks, it's been a long road to have a true production bike that will look like, and do what I want it to do.
    What will you be using to power yours? Surely not a little 2-stroke?

  4. uncle_punk13

    uncle_punk13 Guest

    beautiful work my man!
    It has been a long hard road since the first one...
    Sorry for being out of contact, thoings are wild right now. 4:30 a.m. isn't a very good time to me (new jjob, 12 hour shifts, blah, blah, blah...) and i'm just rrying to get into the swing of the new schedule...Amongst other things going on.
    Anyway, excellent work and glad to see it's up and rolling!!!
    We'll talk soon friend!
  5. iRide Customs

    iRide Customs Member

    HAHA! Oh Mike...gotta love ya. I surely would not be using a little 2 stroke but if I plan to make several bikes, the $800.00 Whizzer engine would start to get expensive.

    Here is a quick shot of what it looked like a couple of weeks ago. We've been breaking it in while I plan out the tank.
    Bad pic...sorry
  6. iRide Customs

    iRide Customs Member's the pic

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  7. iRide Customs

    iRide Customs Member

    Mike, what colors are you planning for the new model?? I think silver would be really nice.

  8. Model 10 colors

    Hi Dan, your bike looks great, nice and smooth overall. I was surprised when I looked at it, that you had taken the antique design, and modernized it in such a subtle way, that to me, even tho the frame is droploop, and the camel-back with the second tube, that it looked modern to me.

    About colors, I will stay with colors that were popular on antique motorcycles in the day. The ones I'm most familiar with are these.

    Pale orange=Flying Merkle
    Light Gray= Harley Davidson
    Bright Yellow= Cyclone
    Black is generally too early of a color for around 1910
    pale blue=Excelsior
    Dark blue=Indian, Cleveland
    British Racing Green=Triumph

    We will have a bike powdercoated in any color for a customer,.

    But what I've got figured for myself is........
    Model 09 prototype will be Indian Red, with the tank graphic saying "Simpson" in the style that Indian used.

    My personal Model 10 production bike will be..........
    Renault Grey, as were the HD's of the day, and the graphics should be in a maroon, with pin stripes around the tank, and the toolbox It will somehow say "Simpson Motor Company".

    I have a friend/fellow motorbiker, who is a top notch Graphic Artist, he used to do all paint by hand, and now does vinyl, and digital, and hand, His name is John Arnott in San Diego, and he will be in charge of making my bikes look the coolest on the Graphic level.

    i'm looking forward to having 2 very nice finished Whizzer powered AMR's

  9. iRide Customs

    iRide Customs Member

    I can't wait to see it in full color, it's going to be awesome!!

    The "modern" look of my bike was on purpose. I didn't try to copy an antique bike but just emulate it. It would have been to easy just to duplicate a design someone already worked hard on. My bikes usually just build them selves once I start on them. The only thing I had set in stone on this one before I started bending the tubing was the drop loop...I had to had just the right angle for the cheapy Chinese engine.

    when do you think your bike will be painted? I know it's going to be so cool!

  10. Paint, and other nightmares

    Hi Dan, well, I dunno when I'll get powder either on the 09 or the 10, as, I am currently working on the wiring for the 09, and after chopping the orig wiring loom I've got to be sure I did not kill any circuts I need. Then the cloth sparkplug wire, mount coil, and then do the rest of the wiring, and a new mount for the brass box.

    Next? Well, fit the Skirted fenders and braces, make dropstand clip, study the headlamp, tail lamp, and license brackets, and speedo, and it's drive sector, and consider a Package Carrier, as I have just ordered a set of brown saddle bags, and a matching brown tool bag.

    So I have brown bags, and black bags, as both of my bikes are to be completely usable small displacement motorcycles, as this is what I've wanted for a very long time.

    I'm convinced, that my designs, and desires are very different than the masses that hang out here, but I think, on some level, that there are still more people out there who will crave what it is that I dream.

    We have had a shipping setback, and my 10 which should have been available for me this Monday, will now be next Monday, not a very happy thing for me, as the 10 prototype left here about 2 months ago. Patience is a very hard lesson for me, and I truly do hate waiting.

    Anyways, I really hope I haven't bored andyone to badly, tho if I did bore you to sleep, you probably really needed that, and it's a good thing.


    RATRODER Guest

    Mike&Dan,your bikes are real cool! butt I think you are wrong about the color black,Mike. louis 1903 harley,1910 FN,1909 Reading

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  12. Colors

    Hi RatRodder, the 03 is out, kind of because most manufacturers were still using a curved down tube prior to 1910 (and my design is 1910). Indian made black bikes in 1901. The FN is not American, tho that Reading New Standard, is not the Dark Green of the fine one I saw in San Fransisco, it is interesting that is is a board track bike, and in all my studies, I don't remember reading about that company making factory racers, and the short frame, and 26" wheels (apparently) do make it look like a factory racer.
    It too is earlier than the 1910 target.

    From what I have seen the Privateer's bikes were almost always stripped down street bikes, not true Racers, as the factory rarely sold racers, and, as far as we can tell, did not have them "On the Menu"

    Keep looking? I am truly interested in the colors of the Motorcycles from 1910-1912.

  13. JosephGarcia

    JosephGarcia Guest

    i would love to see a >100cc four stroke v-twin to accompany those AMAZING frames. it would have to be custom designed, would take time and money that no one has. but, it would be nice.

    Lifan makes a cool 250cc V-twin with manual 4 speed tranny, i would love to see that in a boardtrack frame, except its about 16 inches wide.
  14. V-twin

    Hi Joseph, I had actually considered a Lifan 250 , BUT, to do that I would mount 18"x3" mortorcycle wheels and tires, and continue thru my bike to get it all together. The real pain is, that the Lifan is illegal here in CA, and it added just that much bigger challengs, to an already complicated build.

    With the Lifan, it would be a real Motorcycle, and that also raises the bar.

  15. JosephGarcia

    JosephGarcia Guest

    well yeah, i suggested it becuase i would love to see a replica boardtrack bike and that motor looks like a good candidate. I didnt know it was illegal here though.

    RATRODER Guest

    Mike I can see what your target is, your own design why not use your own colors? louis
  17. what hendle bars was the 1908!
  18. O ya and who makes sents like that 1909 =P
  19. uncle_punk13

    uncle_punk13 Guest

    Somethin' like this...?

    Something like this?
    Not tryin' ta' jack yer thread, just thought I'd throw this at ya'...

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  20. Whizzer v-twin

    Hi Rif, I knew there were a couple of those around! I think that is the one Ron Dow made, showed around a bit, and then it went to a friend of his. What a killer deal that would be for one of my bikes! In addition, my guy could make an exposed OHV setup for it!!!!