Slick 50 testings

[Skyliner70cc]

I'll stick with scientific data over seat of the pants testing, n=3.

I'm with arecee, if this stuff worked, big business (dupont) who is the biz of making a profit would have this in every lubricating fluid possible.

By far the most ****ing testimonial against ptfe products originally came from the DuPont Chemical Corporation, inventor of PTFE and holder of the patents and trademarks for Teflon. In a statement issued about ten years ago, DuPont's Fluoropolymers Division Product Specialist, J.F. Imbalzano said, "Teflon is not useful as an ingredient in oil additives or oils used for internal combustion engines."

Tests on oil additives containing PTFE conducted by the NASA Lewis Research Center, said in their report, "In the types of bearing surface contact we have looked at, we have seen no benefit (of PTFE). In some cases we have seen detrimental effect. The solids in the oil tend to accumulate at inlets and act as a dam, which simply blocks the oil from entering. Instead of helping, it is actually depriving parts of lubricant."

In another test, engine wear increased by 50% but in fairness, horsepower did increase form 5.3 to 8%. Its possible, upon examining this test, that PTFE may increase power but at the expense of engine wear.

I again, will rely on scientific data instead of TESTIMONIAL HYPE.

 

[bluegoatwoods]

Skyliners last post seemed sensible to me. these particulates might well block small oil passages, resulting in poor lubrication.

But maybe that's not an issue with two strokes?

 

[BoltsMissing]

Tests on oil additives containing PTFE conducted by the NASA Lewis Research Center, said in their report, "In the types of bearing surface contact we have looked at, we have seen no benefit (of PTFE). In some cases we have seen detrimental effect. The solids in the oil tend to accumulate at inlets and act as a dam, which simply blocks the oil from entering. Instead of helping, it is actually depriving parts of lubricant."
On a 4-stroker with oil gallerys, on the 2-stroker it embeds in the pores of the metals.

In another test, engine wear increased by 50% but in fairness, horsepower did increase form 5.3 to 8%. Its possible, upon examining this test, that PTFE may increase power but at the expense of engine wear.

I again, will rely on scientific data instead of TESTIMONIAL HYPE

yeah I know that test,have read it and that is why I have never used it on cars since. In fact engine reconditioners have said, engines that have had oil treatements mess up their cutting tools cos it goes to ceramic over time.

BUT, this on 2-stroke HT, there are no oil gallerys, no oil inlets and outlets, oil pumps etc etc.
It's in the fuel mix for a 5Ltr one time treatment cos of our heat weather and just saying what happened and stated clearly, I want the frikin teflon particles to go into the pores of the HT bearings,cylinders,rings, pistons etc.
Is that a big deal ?

Can't understand why you choose to shot it down as hype skyliner, you have another alternative ?

 

[Skyliner70cc]

There is no alternative or panacea but the millions of people who buy **** like this and make the sellers of these products millionaires, (fuel line magnets, tornado product, and dozens of other products)

I do have an alternative: Its called engine scrub. http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2&products_id=7 and this unique spark plug that is guaranteed to work http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=5

 

[BoltsMissing]

and here, this is a similar test machine I was talikng about, but ofcourse, controversial ain't it ?

http://www.motorkote.com/Competition.aspx

 

[BoltsMissing]

Ok,
AC Sky70cc, points taken.

Therefore, these test machines as shown on the above video have been around as far as I know since , 1976'ish.
There is another similar video getting about, same deal, the vendor's prodcut dose not sieze.
Amsoil, comes 2nd, but ofcourse there might be some bias.
Better the deavil ya know than the one ya don't, I would say Amsoil is a equal favourite in any case.

I will still test the slick 50 on this old HT till container runs out..,

 

[BSA]

I've researched this and sure slick 50 isnt gonna help a modern japanese car engine with very tight tolerances. But in an engine were tolerances are as wide as the grand canyon, I can see how it would work with a HT engine. Theres also the matter that it can block oil galleries, but there is no oil galleries in our engines
At the end of the day if it works, it works.

BSA

 

[Mountainman]

an interesting thread

Theres also the matter that it can block oil galleries, but there is no oil galleries in our engines
At the end of the day if it works, it works.
BSA

after doing a little reading here
it's very hard to see where slick 50 or any similar product
could do any harm to a Happy Time engine

ride that thing

 

[arceeguy]

I've researched this and sure slick 50 isnt gonna help a modern japanese car engine with very tight tolerances. But in an engine were tolerances are as wide as the grand canyon, I can see how it would work with a HT engine.......

Please explain!

As far as the demonstrations that you see where two Briggs & Stratton engines (one treated, one not treated) are run, they run two cycle oil in the fuel of the treated engine so the piston doesn't seize in the bore. The bearing clearances in splash lubricated engines is loose enough so that the rod doesn't seize to the crank, and the main bearings are ball bearings. Since there is no load, the "treated" engine will run for a long time with no apparent ill effects, while the "untreated" engine will quit after a few minutes as the piston seizes in the bore. After the demo, the piston is knocked free with some penetrating oil to do it all over again for the next bunch of suckers - ......er customers.

 

[RATRODER]

There is no alternative or panacea but the millions of people who buy **** like this and make the sellers of these products millionaires, (fuel line magnets, tornado product, and dozens of other products)

I do have an alternative: Its called engine scrub. http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2&products_id=7 and this unique spark plug that is guaranteed to work http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=5

I have used the spark plugs,they work grate not only do they reduce engine ware,they reduced fuel use to nothing.
becuse the dam thing won't run.