So if i am right the avenger 85 is just phantom 85 without the problematic jug ?

The menace is the phantom 85 just without the issues and a 2 piece jug. The a85 is a different animal all together.
 
And then there is the exhaust...it is a totally different exhaust on the A-85 and they also will not interchange.

The A-85 is known for bad problems that have not been corrected at the factory level whereas the P-85 has been improved over the last 4 years of production with the V-3 version that came out a year ago.

I own a V-2 and a V-3 Phantom and I love the both of them...lol.

Here is the bike I have them on as I have one as a spare motor and can just switch them out back and forth if I need to.

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Oooooh - Dat your bike bro? That is so very nice- do you have a thread on it?
 
Oooooh - Dat your bike bro? That is so very nice- do you have a thread on it?
If ya like his check out mine...
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Oooooh - Dat your bike bro? That is so very nice- do you have a thread on it?
I DO have a tutorial on how I built it, (I originally built it 5 years ago and I keep adding improvements to it here and there), I have just added a triple tree front fork to it a month ago and need to take some new up to date pics of it to show that fact...lol...Also the disk brake calipers on it have been upgraded from basic mechanical cable pull calipers with one piston doing all the work to cable pull hydraulic calipers with dual piston action, I also changed the front brake disk from a 160mm to a 203mm on the front when I changed the stock front fork to the triple tree fork.


Here it was when I first built it 5 years ago with the Zeda 80 motor, I kept making improvements from there starting with the 3 spoke mags and disk brakes and eliminating the chain tensioner.

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