So whats the minimum you need to build your bike?

Discussion in 'Spare Parts, Tools & Product Developement' started by kitcarguy, May 15, 2009.

  1. kitcarguy

    kitcarguy Member

    I work on my 150cc scooter and feel I have a pretty good selection of tools. But all of you exp builders out there here is a question...

    Looking back what was that one tool you though "Oh Dammit" I didnt think I would need that, while building your bike?

    Is there a list of must have tools on this forum anywhere that I did not see?

  2. bluegoatwoods

    bluegoatwoods Well-Known Member

    These don't require much in the way of specialty tools.

    One should have a torque wrench. I imagine many people don't.

    The only tool that I wished I had had when doing my builds would be a chain breaker that is up to the task of breaking these chains. Those ones for bike chains aren't stout enough.
    But even that wasn't a really big problem; a grinder and a punch will break a chain.
  3. kitcarguy

    kitcarguy Member

    Thats what I though. But hey it never hearts to ask
  4. bluegoatwoods

    bluegoatwoods Well-Known Member

    Nope, no harm in asking. In fact, it's a very good idea.

    You mention that you work on your scooter. If that's the case, then I'll bet you already have everything you need. You'll do fine.

    have fun.
  5. Mountainman

    Mountainman Active Member

    are you truing wheels -- nice spoke wrench

  6. bamabikeguy

    bamabikeguy Active Member

    If you are a "local pioneer", haven't seen MB's in your area and think you might build them for family and friends, there are two things that pay off quick.

    The cheapest personal bike stand that flips around 360 degrees is the PSC-9, out of the J&B catalog at your local bike shop. I got mine in 2005 for $109, I think they are $120 now.

    The second item (??? where the picture is) was a $50 electric air compressor, not heavy duty, but more than enough to blow up bike tubes. I started with a hand pump, but trying to get the tire bead seated would take way too much energy. Now it's a breeze.

    I made this "wheel/tire checker", you can see how simple it is, a box that holds all my ring snapping stuff, a 2 x 4 legs in the air, with holes drilled in it. So I can check the ring centering, the spokes trueness, and make sure that the tire is not bulging out anywhere. I also put the wheels in the slots to put my 4-6 layers of electrical tape over the spoke-ends.

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  7. kitcarguy

    kitcarguy Member

    Do not think I want to be the local pioneer. Who knows. I like the idea of the bike stand. I was going to build one for my own use, but they are cheap enough to just buy.

    I have a compressor already that would be fine. Its an old craftsman but works well.

    Thanks for all of the pointers

  8. lordoflightaz

    lordoflightaz Member

    If it is a two stroke, a glass measuring cup with ounces marked . So much easier to do fuel ratios.

    I think you need more stuff for the bike then for the motorization. It seems that the bike world just make up tools that only work on bikes. Crank removal tools, freewheel removal tools, spoke adjusters, chain breaks, cable "luber". to make it worse differnt bikes use different versions of those removal tools.
  9. kitcarguy

    kitcarguy Member

    Thanks a bunch,

    This is exactly the info I was hoping to get from everyone.

  10. loquin

    loquin Active Member

    I think that one of the reasons for all the special tools for bikes is that bike design has been pushed to the limit in a search for ultra-light bikes.

    Also, the over-sized vet's syringes is great for measuring out oil for pre-mixing.
    Last edited: May 17, 2009
  11. bamabikeguy

    bamabikeguy Active Member

    Early on, it became MBcommonknowledge that the rear wheel would have to be beefed up, 12 gauge being the one which seemed to hold up to the torque and stress.

    On a new wheel, once the spokes are zip tied together at the intersections, which is what the BMX racing guys do, the spokes don't loosen much, very rarely does one break.

    Until you DO become a pioneer, the special sprocket socket ($10) (to remove a sprocket and put it on a heavier wheel), could be done by your bike shop, or the local bike enthusiast.

    I've been doing this for years, and don't even fiddle with all the different types of derailleurs.

    Why waste a half hour figuring it out? And always WITHOUT the instruction manual.

    Those super-secret-bikeshop-DaVinci coders can do it in their sleep. I tell my customers "Go see Justin, he'll can adjust it in 1 minute or less".
  12. Junster

    Junster Member

    I use a old baby bottle for oil mix, they're pretty accurate. I just keep it hid in the shop, lol.
  13. gia

    gia New Member

    Do you by chance have more specific information about how you built this gizmo? That looks like something that would come in VERY handy!
  14. Big Red

    Big Red Active Member


    bluegoatwoods is right. There is not a really decent chain breaker, that I've seen, on the market.
    What I did was to sink a small socket into a 2x4, lay the pin over the socket and smack it with a punch. The harder thing to do is putting a pin back in if you need to. I try not to punch it all the way out, but sometimes, awe ***.
    If anyone has an easy (or easier) way of replacing a chain pin I would really like to hear from them. Been doing it this way for over 4 years now and I get just a little frustrated every time I go too far with that darned pin.
    Big Red.
  15. spad4me

    spad4me Member

    Vice grip
    flat blade screwdriver
    Philips screwdriver
    Absolute minimum would also be a leatherman and some grease.

    Forgot the coat hanger to true the rear sprocket on a china girl. And nylon ties.
    Last edited: May 31, 2011
  16. Happy Valley

    Happy Valley Active Member

    Just a mention, you'd want to know......BBG is no longer with us, he's gone on the long ride in the sky. Ride in peace, BBG.
  17. olow

    olow Member

    i did something i said i wouldnt ever do and went out to tracktor supply and bought a chain breaker it works pretty good but to big to carry with me so in my on board tools i carry large nut ,small punch i made,pair of good pliers
  18. gia

    gia New Member

    Oops--I knew that from reading the forum so long too, as I'd been reading posts for several weeks before I joined. I guess I'll have to just use the photo and wing it, unless someone else has some ideas.
  19. rustycase

    rustycase New Member

    I'm sorry to hear that.
    I enjoyed his posts.
  20. gia

    gia New Member

    That's very true--he had some great posts! His ideas and hints and advice will be riding with a lot of people that never had a chance to meet him. In a way, from what I saw of his posts, that's a great legacy.

    It's strange, so many people I've never met and never will meet...seem so very real and relevant, just through the things they have posted here. Good or bad, people's posts often outlive them.

    Maybe we should ALL remember that before we hit that "submit reply" button!