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The Iraq War

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sparky

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Continued from here...

As for the war….there will be another world war. I fear the cause of it will be religion.
Wars will prolly not start because of religion ever again. First two world wars started for political reasons, and other countries hopped in because they wanted more resources. The third world war has already started... for political reasons. Bush knew that Iraq had nothing to do with Al Qaeda, and there were tons of people in his cabinet who came out and said that Bush wanted them to find anything that could link Iraq to terrorism. All of the stuff his cabinet members came up with are now known to be lies. Our CIA is not that dumb.

If a president or Prime Minister went after Hitler before he came to power would he or she be black labeled for the rest of time?
Of course... just like Bush will be labeled the guy who thinks starting pre-emptive war is a good idea. Remember the "Axis of Evil"? Why are we not attacking Iran or North Korea who were 5 to 10 times more of a threat than Iraq?? 'Cause it was an embarrassment to Bush's family that Saddam wasn't assassinated... that was priority one for him. Oil was a plus, tho... and Haliburton sure likes their no-bid contracts. If I knew there was going to be a major war... I woulda put all my money into private security companies. Well, I woulda put it into one of my best friend's accounts, who woulda put it into the private security companies. Step 3: Profit! $$$

We won't attack Iran because that's when WW3 really begins, and we can't chew that much of a bite at once.
North Korea has fired a few missles, and we could care less.
Sad part is that less than a month before we invaded Iraq... Saddam agreed to let weapons inspectors come in after months of saying no, no, no. That's how I knew something was wrong with the whole thing from the get go. The second you see progress with a tyrant, and shortly after a "free" country decides *that* is the best time to attack... something's definitely wrong with the picture.

But the fact of the matter is, we can't cut and run on Iraq.
Why not? Using Ron Paul's reasoning here... but we did it in Vietnam, and now we're trading with them. We don't need to tell people how to operate. Democracy CANNOT exist without compromise. If you go into someone else's country and say, "Become Democratic now or I'll blow your brains out!" You'd be thinking that Democracy is pretty crappy. Democracy must begin with the people inside the country, just like our forefathers showed us long ago. If the people aren't willing to fight, and we throw in a leader for them... what's to prevent another general of their military to take control of these weak-minded people & overthrow the leader we think is best??? Democracy is best led thru example, like everything else.

Leaving is irresponsible.
Could be... but the point is that the people themselves will never take responsibility into their own hands unless they have to. Nothing America does anymore is responsible anyway. Wasting oil, starting pre-emptive wars based on lies, ignoring its own citizens in New Orleans, not punishing the parents who choose to buy things that aren't as important as health care for their children, etc. We definitely do not need to be helping others when we can't help ourselves. If somebody in the next stall asked me for some toilet paper... I'm gonna wipe my own *** first.
 
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sparky

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Oh yea, I forgot about one of the other main political reasons that we went to war with Iraq. They started asking for EURO or YEN, and *not* the great & almighty USD.

Iran has just asked for the same currencies instead of our failing dollar.

I'm about to buy this DAC/amp from a Chinese company called Ibasso, & they're asking for the price in EURO.

What a shame it is to be an American these days.
 
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SirJakesus

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Good show sparky... If you haven't read news articles on whatreallyhappened.com I think you'd quite enjoy them.
 
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Jim H

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Daggone Sparky! My sentiments exactly! I am no longer alone in my perceived paranoia!!! Our dollar is going the way of the yen. Shoot, the British pound is worth almost double I think...
 
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SirJakesus

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To be somewhat paranoid is healthy. Nobody in their right mind would blindly follow our government like lemmings off a cliff. Even the Canadian dollar is worth more than ours right now, but who cares, lets just keep printing money out of thin air to bail out those wonderfully honest and caring bankers.
 
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The American dollar used to be worth 55 dollars in the Philippines.

Today it's down to about 40 bucks.

We didn't go to Iran to save the souls there.

That's a perception.

Just like the perception the Bush/McCain group is throwing at us that we are fighting the war there so they don't come here.

That is the biggest... pile... I have ever heard of.

So we pull out today and then they will come here because they have no one to play with???

Sheep. Sorry,but this is Sheep. They are tending the sheep and were supposed to believe.

I don't like our candidates. I really really liked Ron Paul and surprisingly he hasn't pulled out.

Who here being Republican voted McCain in the primaries?

I haven't met one yet.

It was Huckabee or Romeny.

And yet there he is.

What a nice couple.

They would look so nice sitting in the White House.

Not those other people,though.

They would have kids in turbans running around playing loud music while the first lady is downing a 40.

And I hear they are Muslim.

... the Anarchy is near.
 
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SirJakesus

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Sweet large, I voted for Paul in the primaries here. That dude speaks the truth and from his congressional voting record you can tell he believes in freedom and the Constitution.
 

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A verse from a poem by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
"The Arsenal at Springfield"

Where half the power,that fills the world with terror,
Were half the wealth,bestowed on camps and courts,
Given to redeem the human mind of error,
There were no need of arenals or forts:


http://www.poemhunter.com/poem/arsenal-at-springfield-the/

The moral is, how long before the errors of the today's thinking subside and admit to the obvious and yet known errors ? Then corrected.
Just like a glitch in a piece of computer code, it's the same thing with the human brain, ain't it ?
If there is a glitch in a piece of computer code, it gets "redeemed" or removed and corrected, and on with the show...., Yet with humans, it just does not seem that simple cos the focus is on a profit graph, add defects of the current thinking on a global scale, and things I would like to say, but not here, but lets say, "seen on TV", for now, and all the rest of the mind controling devices, it's obvious the majority DO realize there are errors everywhere, we don't have a glitch,
we got the equivalent of "trojan viruses" !

Or, "it's all in the mind", to keep it simple.
 
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It would be irresponsible to leave Iraq? Please let us revisit, and actually think about the Pottery Barn analogy. The concept was "You break it, you own it." True, as far as it goes. Now, instead of admitting your mistake, and paying for the damage you caused, try moving into the Pottery Barn and making the owner sleep on the floor for 5 years while you try to glue the damaged item back together.
 

sparky

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Good show sparky... If you haven't read news articles on whatreallyhappened.com I think you'd quite enjoy them.
I think most of that started with that video by Alex Jones (I think that's who did it... can't find it now that Google Videos won't show it anymore. . . conspiracy??).

Honestly, tho... I'd rather not think about it as it's too unbelievable. I'm definitely open-minded, but I'd rather not think that people were that cruel even if it were true.
 
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