TX law question please.

[Bradley]

This is why we tell people to look up their local laws. Because they do vary from state to state in the USA. We also tell them when quoting laws to state the location at least and if known list the statute number.

The Oklahoma law (Title 47, Oklahoma statutes) has changed. The new law holds engine size to a maximum of 80 cc and the maximum speed limit is 35 mph or lower if posted (ie, school zones, posted crossings). However if the primary source of propulsion is crank driven sprockets or pulleys it can have 2,3, or 4 wheels. This is the most significant distinction between motor ASSISTED bikes and: mopeds, scooters, and motorcycles!

 

[Bradley]

That's the case in most places; which is why I stress obeying the traffic laws. I also stress using Lane Control if the lane is less than 14 feet wide; so that you don't get side-swiped.

However, some states/cities are very strict in enforcing their guidelines regardless of how well you're obeying local traffic laws.

The problem is that Texas law doesn't define motor assisted bicycles as a separate category. The solution is to petition the, governor to recognize motor assisted bikes as a separate category. Until we participate in the legal process, motor assisted bikes will not be recognized as a separate category. The ball is in our court!

 

[Bradley]

This is why we tell people to look up their local laws. Because they do vary from state to state in the USA. We also tell them when quoting laws to state the location at least and if known list the statute number.

The problem with motor assisted scooters is the requirement for a DECK which would be

 

[Bradley]

A DECK would be impossible with the requirement for pedal operation! Until we petition the government for recognition as a separate category

 

[Sidewinder Jerry]

The problem is that Texas law doesn't define motor assisted bicycles as a separate category. The solution is to petition the, governor to recognize motor assisted bikes as a separate category. Until we participate in the legal process, motor assisted bikes will not be recognized as a separate category. The ball is in our court!

The Late KC Vale was trying to get legislation passed in the state of Arizona to up the speed limit of a motorized bicycle from 20 mph to 35 mph. Sadly that never happened. Many states are slow to change their laws. When they do it is seldom in our favor. A few states such as Oklahoma are the rare exceptions.

This is why many others and I on here come down so hard on MB'ers who post public videos of irresponsible riding.

 

[Sidewinder Jerry]

A DECK would be impossible with the requirement for pedal operation! Until we petition the government for recognition as a separate category

Pedals can be considered a form of a deck. A deck is merely a place for your feet to go. A kick scooter is self-explanatory for human propulsion. Pedals are also a form of human power as well.

 

[Wrench]

The problem is that Texas law doesn't define motor assisted bicycles as a separate category. The solution is to petition the, governor to recognize motor assisted bikes as a separate category. Until we participate in the legal process, motor assisted bikes will not be recognized as a separate category. The ball is in our court!

Motor bicycles are considered a Moped in Texas and follow the Moped rules

It doesn't say anything about floorboards

 

[Sidewinder Jerry]

Motor bicycles are considered a Moped in Texas and follow the Moped rules

It doesn't say anything about floorboards

In the state of Texas, you aren't allowed to operate a self-built moped on their public roadways. A moped must be on a certified manufacturers list which is updated every 90 days in the state of Texas.

Until/if laws ever get changed; here's a video of something you can legally operate in Texas. A self-built motor-assisted scooter. You can get manufactured 49cc seated scooters like this and probably won't be harassed as long as you obey all traffic laws, don't exceed 35 mph, and don't ride on streets with a posted speed limit higher than 35 mph. However one could probably get away using a bicycle as long as the engine wasn't over 40cc, you obey all traffic laws, you don't go over 35 mph, and stay off streets with a speed limit posted higher than 35 mph. If going any of these routes get some kind of speedometer device.

In the state of Texas, a motor-assisted scooter isn't allowed to operate on any public roadway which has a posted speed limit over 35 mph.

 

[Bradley]

Pedals can be considered a form of a deck. A deck is merely a place for your feet to go. A kick scooter is self-explanatory for human propulsion. Pedals are also a form of human power as well.

Is your conclusion that pedals can be "considered a deck'' based on state law or case law or is that simply your personal opinion?

 

[Bradley]

In the state of Texas, you aren't allowed to operate a self-built moped on their public roadways. A moped must be on a certified manufacturers list which is updated every 90 days in the state of Texas.

Until/if laws ever get changed; here's a video of something you can legally operate in Texas. A self-built motor-assisted scooter. You can get manufactured 49cc seated scooters like this and probably won't be harassed as long as you obey all traffic laws, don't exceed 35 mph, and don't ride on streets with a posted speed limit higher than 35 mph. However one could probably get away using a bicycle as long as the engine wasn't over 40cc, you obey all traffic laws, you don't go over 35 mph, and stay off streets with a speed limit posted higher than 35 mph. If going any of these routes get some kind of speedometer device.

In the state of Texas, a motor-assisted scooter isn't allowed to operate on any public roadway which has a posted speed limit over 35 mph.

The video provided for a "legal" motorized scooter does not show pedals which can self propel the scooter which is a requirement for a motorized scooter.