what about on military installations

Discussion in 'Races, Events & Group Rides' started by militarymonark, Dec 12, 2010.

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  1. so Im building a MxB and Im on a military base and Im wondering if anyone knows the laws on base about these things.

  2. marineabilly

    marineabilly New Member

    Good question!! I'm stationed in Camp Pendleton, but am in Afghanistan rigt now and was thinking that perhaps I should talk with the Marine MPs here to find out what they know.

    If I find out anything, I'll be sure to post...

  3. 5-7HEAVEN

    5-7HEAVEN Guest

    My friend Hawaii Ed lived and rode on Hickam Air Base while on active duty last year. After he retired from the Air Force, he rode his MB onto Pearl Harbor base on a weekly basis.
  4. Im on mountain home afb and well I dont think the security forces are real busy so they'll end up looking for something to give me a ticket about. but if I had AFI about those I could quote that and they can't say anything.
  5. marineabilly

    marineabilly New Member

    Marine Corps Base Camp Pendleton, Ca Mb Rules

    A couple years back, I worked with a fellow Master Sergeant who worked the traffic section of the Provost Marshals Office. What better person to ask...well, he turned me on to the Civilian Officer (we now have civilian authorities working alongside our MP's). Here is what the LT just e-mailed me - the first part of his e-mail is the typical CA law, so I didn't bother pasting it. Hope this clears things up:

    Base Info:

    Section 6
    Motorcycles/Motor Driven Cycles/Bicycles
    1. Definitions
    a. Motorcycle. A motorcycle is any motor vehicle weighing less than 1,500 pounds, other than a tractor, with a seat or saddle for the rider, and designed to travel with not more than three wheels in contact with the ground except that four wheels may be in contact with the ground when two of the wheels function as part of a sidecar.

    b. Motor Driven Cycles. A motor driven cycle is any motorcycle, including motor scooter, mopeds, and motorized bicycles that produce less than 15 gross brake horsepower.

    c. Minibikes, Tote-goats, UTC and ATV. Minibikes, tote-goats, ATCs and similar vehicles are designed for off-road use, but do not meet California licensing requirements, although they may be categorized as either motorcycles or motor-driven cycles on the basis of brake horsepower. Recreational operation of these vehicles aboard Camp Pendleton is prohibited.

    d. Rider. Where the term motorcycle "rider H is used, the term applies to
    both operator and passenger.

    e. High-Visibility Vest. A high visibility vest is defined as an uppertorso garment made of safety reflective and/or luminescent material in colors of international orange, yellow, or lime with two stripes front and back with a minimun of 1 inch width.

    f. Times of low visibility and or darkness is defined as the time after evening colors until morning colors.
    2. Prerequisites for Registration and Operation Aboard MCB CamPen
    a. General. Personnel desiring to operate motorcycles or motor-driven cycles aboard MCB CamPen may obtain visitor passes, temporary passes or permanent decals provided they produce the required documents, meet required safety standards and/or satisfactorily complete a Motorcycle Safety Foundation Course. Upon successful completion of the prescribed course of instruction, a permanent decal will be issued by the Motorcycle Safety Course or the Provost Marshal's Office. Registered owners who possess valid decals from other installations, will register with the MCB CamPen safety course within 3 working days.
    b. Required Documents. To obtain a visitor's pass, a temporary pass to gain entry to MCB CamPen, all personnel must be able to satisfy the following requirements:
    (1) Present a valid state motorcycle operator's license or permit.
    (2) Present proof of person identification.
    (3) Present a valid registration certificate, or bill of sale.
    (4) Provide proof of insurance as indicated in the vehicle code.
    (5) Active duty military members, DoD employees, and military dependents will have in their possession a letter of enrollment into a
    Motorcycle Safety Foundation Course or have in their possession proof of successful completion of mandatory motorcycle safety training.
    c. Mechanical Inspection. Motorcycles must pass a mechanical inspection based on the safety standards in paragraph 3 below before being registered, and annually thereafter.
    d. General Instructions
    (1) Owners who permit unqualified personnel to operate their motorcycle(s) will have their base driving privileges suspended. While
    operating their motorcycle aboard the base, owners will have in their possession a current MCB CamPen Motorcycle Operator's Permit or other proof of successful completion of current mandatory motorcycle safety training.
    (2) Motorcycle operation will be confined to hard surface roads and designated parking areas. Exception is made for traveling on a "designated" dirt access road, going directly to and from a place of duty/business. See paragraph 5 below.
    (3) Trail riding, hill climbing, and related activities are prohibited except as may be specifically authorized by separate directive.
    (4) The operation of motorcycles as defined herein in any area designated for the use of pedestrians (i.e., baseball fields, playgrounds,
    school yards, basketball courts, sidewalks, etc.) is expressly prohibited.
    (5) Motorcycles will be operated with headlights on at all times.

    e. Methods of Entry/Registration. Motorcycles may enter the base by the following means: as a visitor (see Section 2, Access Control Policy), temporary vehicle pass, or permanent registration.
    (1) Visitor Control. Military and civilian personnel who are visiting as motorcyclists with no permanent MCB CamPen connection must register as visitors at the SLR, Main, Pulgas and San Onofre ACPs (see Section 2, Access Control Policy) between 0500-2300. These visitors must meet the requirements of paragraph 4 below prior to entry.
    (2) Permanent Registration
    (a) Initial Motorcycle Registration. To obtain a permanent base decal, applicants must successfully complete the Motorcycle Safety Foundation Course. The course of instruction consists of a mechanical inspection, written test, and skill demonstration test. All portions of the course must be taken on the motorcycle to be registered. A student who fails to pass the tests will have to attend another complete course. Upon successful completion of all instruction, applicants will receive a valid yellow card, MSF
    completion card and their permanent decal.
    1. Present a valid state motorcycle operator's license or permit.
    2. Present proof of person identification.
    3. Present a valid registration certificate, or bill of sale.
    4. Provide proof of insurance as indicated in the vehicle code.
    5. Present an MCB CamPen Motorcycle Yellow card. Motorcycle operation aboard the base will not be authorized prior to completion of safety training except in connection with the actual course of safety or with a letter of enrollment from motorcycle safety office. It is important to note that all potential authorized operators must be identified when registering the motorcycle, and the appropriate documents presented.
    (b) Decal Renewal. Personnel renewing permanent decals must attend an eight-hour refresher course one year after a basic riders course and every three years for experienced riders.
    3. Mechanical Safety Standards
    a. General. All motorcycles registered aboard MCB CamPen must be maintained to meet all California Vehicle Code requirements and the mechanical safety standards set forth below.
    b. Inspection Standards
    (1) General. All motorcycle configurations should generally conform to the manufacturer's stock specifications. Modifications are permitted consistent with the CVC code and Department of Transportation standards.
    (2) Passenger Equipment. In addition to required items of personal protective equipment specified in paragraph 4 below, the motorcycle must be equipped with a securely fastened seat designed for two riders with the passenger to the rear. Foot rests must also be provided. Transportation of a passenger in any manner other than seated on the passenger seat is illegal in the State of California and aboard MCB CamPen. Passengers are required to use foot rests while the machine is in motion.
    (3) Luggage. All luggage carried must be securely fastened or strapped. Handheld items are not permitted.
    4. Protective Equipment and Clothing
    a. Protective Equipment. The motorcycle operator is responsible for providing appropriate protective equipment for the passenger.
    (1) Safety Helmet. All motorcycle riders must wear motorcycle safety helmets which meet Department of Transportation (DOT) and federal regulations.
    (2) Eye Protection. Eye encapsulating shatterproof goggles, or a face shield attached to the helmet must be worn by all riders so as to protect the eyes while the motorcycle is in motion.
    (3) High-Visibility Vest
    (a) During daylight hours, a brightly colored upper torso garment or motorcycle specific jacket must be worn.
    (b) High-visibility vest is required during night time and times of low visibility.
    (c) Vests must not be covered or concealed by clothing or items such as knapsacks or backpacks.
    b. Clothing. All riders must be fully clothed to include full-length trousers or slacks, shirt, full fingered gloves, and over the ankle boots when the motorcycle is in motion.
    (1) Uniforms. The motorcycle safety helmet, eye protection, gloves and high-visibility vest (during hours of darkness) are considered part of the uniform, and are required to be worn by all riders aboard the base, and by all Marines while riding motorcycles off-base.
    (a) Gloves will be worn by uniformed motorcycle riders.
    (b) Protective outer or over garments may be worn by riders, provided that such clothing completely covers the uniform (except the highvisibility vest and (boots). Motorcycle specific jackets, designed for rider protection, and not for bearing patches or insignias, may be worn over the uniform to add to the rider's fall protection.
    (2) Civilian Clothing. The following applies to all riders not in uniform.
    (a) Full-length trousers or slacks are required.
    (b) A long sleeve shirt or blouse is required. A jacket is recommended for the better protection it affords.
    (c) Gloves are required.
    (d) Footwear must cover the entire foot and ankle and must be made of leather. Sandals, moccasins, deck shoes, footwear which leaves any portion of the foot exposed, and athletic shoes are prohibited. Laced boots which extend above the ankle provide the best protection against engine burns and foot/ankle injuries.
    5. Restrictions
    a. Extended Forks. Operators of motorcycles with extended forks must have their operator's permit annotated by the Joint Safety Center Motorcycle Education and Training School, certifying that they have passed all portions of the operator's skill course on a motorcycle with extended forks.
    b. Operators
    (1) A privately owned motorcycle will not be operated by any person other than the licensed and registered owner or licensed dependent of the owner.
    (2) Military motorcycles will not be operated by any person other than properly licensed and authorized operators designated to operate that particular machine.
    c. Parking. Motorcycles will park in areas specifically reserved for them. However, automobile parking spaces may be used if specific motorcycle parking areas are not designated. Area commanders and cognizant facility heads should designate specific parking areas for motorcycles when possible.
    d. Prohibited Areas. The operation of motorcycles in any area designated for the use of pedestrians (e.g., baseball fields, football fields, playgrounds, school yards, basketball courts, sidewalks) is prohibited.
    e. Authorized Road Surfaces. Motorcycle operation should normally be confined to hard surface roads and designated parking areas. Military motorcycles may be operated in designated training areas in connection with authorized training operations and exercises.
    f. Mopeds. Moped operators will move to the extreme right side of a roadway when the designated speed limit is greater than the operating speed of the moped.
    6. Off Base Operations
    a. Every person operating, or riding on a motorcycle aboard Marine Corps property is required by MCO 5100.19_ to wear an approved helmet, eye protection, full fingered gloves, over the ankle boots, and a reflective (high-visibility) vest at night and from morning to evening colors. In addition, all Marines operating or riding on a motorcycle off base, either in uniform or civilian clothes, shall wear approved helmets, eye protection, full fingered gloves, over the ankle boots, and reflective vest after evening colors until morning colors.
    b. Failure to use prescribed protective clothing and equipment may jeopardize the Marine's entitlements and survivor benefits. For example, severe administrative penalties may be invoked when a mishap is due to misconduct or gross negligence on the part of the individual Marine, and the resulting injuries were either aggravated by, or are largely due to, the failure of the Marine to use the prescribed protective clothing and equipment.
    7. Bicycles
    a. General. Every person who rides a bicycle upon a roadway or any paved shoulder aboard the base has all the rights and is subject to all the provisions applicable to the driver of a motor vehicle.
    b. Registration. It is recommended that all bicycles belonging to persons residing or working aboard base be registered with the Provost
    Marshal's Office and the State of California. Base registrations can be accomplished at PMO Physical Security Section, Bldg 1525. All bicycles will be inspected prior to being registered. A certificate of ownership will be signed by an adult over the age of 18 years.
    c. Equipment Requirements. No person shall operate a bicycle aboard MCB
    CamPen unless it has the following equipment:
    (1) A brake, which will enable the operator to make one's brake wheel skid on dry, level, clean pavement.
    (2) Handlebars, which do not raise the operator's hands above the level of the shoulders.
    (3) Every bicycle operated aboard the installation during darkness shall use a head lamp (either attached to the bicycle or the operator), a red rear tail lamp, and a high visibility vest as defined in paragraph 4 above.
    d. Protective Clothing. The following protective clothing is recommended for wear by all bicyclists:
    (1) High Visibility vest as defined in paragraph 2600.5.
    (2) Full length trousers or slacks which will not easily become entangled in the chain.
    (3) Shoes which cover the entire foot.
    e. Safety Helmets. A safety helmet/head protection is required for wear by all bicyclists. Helmets must meet standards of the American Standards Institute (ANSI 290.4, Bicycle Safety Standards) or the Snell Memorial Foundation 1984 Standard for Protective Headgear for use in bicycling. The helmet must have straps that fit well when fastened around the chin.
    f. Operation on Roadways. Any person operating a bicycle upon a roadway at a speed less than that of normal traffic shall ride as close as practicable to the right hand curb or edge of the roadway in single-file.
    g. Restrictions
    (1) No person riding a bicycle shall attach the bicycle, or self, to any other vehicle to hitch a ride.
    (2) No person operating a bicycle aboard the installation shall ride other than upon astride a permanent and regular seat attached to the bicycle.
    (3) No operator shall al16w a person to ride as a passenger unless it is upon or astride a separate seat attached to the bicycle.
    (4) No person operating a bicycle shall carry any package, bundle or article which prevents the operator from keeping at least one hand upon the handlebars.
    (5) No person shall operate a bicycle upon Basilone Road between Vado Del Rio Road and the School of Infantry (SOl, 52 area), Las Pulgas Road between Basilone Road and Stuart Mesa Rd, or San Mateo Road between Basilone Road and Camp San Mateo, or Christianitos Road between Camp Talega and Interstate Route 5, except as noted in paragraph 7g(6) below.
    (6) Exceptions to paragraph 7g(5) are as follows:
    (a) DoD personal, active duty dependents and active duty personnel are authorized to ride bicycles to and from the 43 Area via Stuart Mesa and Las Pulgas Roads.
    (b) Active duty personnel are authorized to ride bicycles on Christianitos Road (between Camp Talega and Interstate 5) during daylight
    hours only.
    (7) No person operating a bicycle upon a highway or roadway on MCB CamPen shall allow as a passenger any person to ride, unless that passenger is wearing a helmet meeting standards of the American Standards Institute (ANSI 290.4, Bicycle Safety Standards) or the Snell Memorial Foundation 1984 Standard for Protective Headgear for use in bicycling. The helmet must have straps that fit well when fastened around the chin.

    Traffic OIC

    -----Original Message-----
    Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 7:48

    Hey MSgt
    Sorry it took so long to get back with you, been out of pocket for the last couple of weeks, and yes still with the MLG at least until Aug.
    As for the motorized bicycles, I know this question came up when I was with PMO and the answer at that time was, we followed the California Vehicle code however still requested all the PPE for a motorcycle. The best person to ask now is ... he runs the Traffic Section and would be the man to give you a good answer.
  6. wheelbender6

    wheelbender6 Well-Known Member

    They really had a lot of regs for motorcycles on base to discourage us from riding at MCAS Tustin (showing my age). I would think a gas assist bike would not be tolerated. I'd go electric on post, but check with the MPs first.