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kerf

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Sparky,

I really appreciate your willingness to pursue this idea but I'm a little sadder and a little wiser today.

Now to the rant,

The Alabama Senate met until the early hours of this morning and closed the secession. Unresolved were a smoking bill, a bill to exempt groceries from state taxes, a bill to exempt the Federal Stimulus from state taxes, illegal alien legislation, the education funding bill and anything else these sorry, no good sons of @&%$&#$ should have accomplished. Thinking these loser's would take time to address our bicycle issue is a fantasy. If they won't handle the more important issues of state business, we are truly without hope.

End rant.
 

sparky

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Yes... I really wish our government would adopt technology a bit quicker. They could keep working for just 22 days of the year AND accomplish most all their tasks if they used computers a bit more.

What a shame...

I'm still gonna have to see what I can do with my legislature, tho.
 

stude13

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i place fyi ad on craigs list under bicycles--about mileage, no licence, insurance, and advise visiting gebe--motoredbike--derringercycles- and give my e-ad--get wonderful conversations and interest
 

sparky

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Ahem...

What does craigslist have to do with changing motor-assisted bicycling laws??
 

SimpleSimon

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It's called spreading the word, expanding the base of knowledgeable consumers, and just perhaps, informing someone with the ear of a legislator. Getting more people interested and enthusiastic can't hurt, might help.
 

sparky

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Kerf, I'm still waiting to see your template for changing MB laws.

Hopefully we can mix up the good parts, or you guys can tell me if I need to change something in my template. Then we could have one template with a list of people to call, mail, email, etc. Hopefully with enough voices, we can get at least one person's attention who can do something for us. Here it is for all to pass judgment...

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Dear Sirs,

I am one of your constituents from Gulfport, MS, and I have a concern for the way our state's vague laws treat my bicycle with a weed eater engine attached as a motorcycle. I believe we need to become proactive like other states and move toward defining these bicycles with 50cc or less engines as something separate from what motorcycles are currently defined as in our Rules of the Road, similar to how Colorado, New Hampshire, Texas, Arizona, etc. have gone about this issue. The strictest of these states only accept $5 or so to register it for approximately three years. Some get a sticker for their bike, while other states like Arizona just plain let pedal-assist riders have the freedoms we deserve, like pure pedalists currently enjoy, instead of having to deal with cops who can pull me over for something other than traveling faster than the law or speed limit sign allows, demand registration & insurance, and then harass me because the law permits them to do so.

It's too demanding to ask us to add things like brake lights & turn signals to regular bicycles. Even insurance is ridiculous when I'm only traveling 5 MPH faster than a person who is pedaling. Some people with racing bikes and who are fit enough can even pedal faster than my maximum speed, and I could not imagine wanting to go more than 30 MPH on the road with a regular bicycle frame. I ride under 25 MPH often, and it is the most enjoyable for me as this is mostly a fun hobby for me right now. It is most fun to ride slow and wave back to the smiling children I pass. I even pedal without the motor more often than I've pedaled in several years. I personally do not believe this will replace my reliable transportation anytime soon, but as it stands, any cop can hassle me if he so chooses based on the current Rules of the Road law is written now, even though he feels that the ten tickets or so he could write me is a bit excessive. A helmet & headlight should be the most required of me, and to obey traffic laws like we ask of every biker.

If only you knew how much fun it is to pedal-assist your bike up to engine speeds and let the engine take over, getting anywhere from 150 to 200 miles per gallon, even more if you pedal often which is quite possibly what of our state needs most from pedal-assist bicycles!! The grin that is impossible to wipe from your face, the health benefits, and the economical & environmental aspects are nothing to sneeze at. It is a Win-Win-Win-Win situation for every citizen. Our dated Rules of the Road in the MS Code even fails to accept that the Federal Government has already defined electric bicycles under 20 MPH as "consumer products", which I believe sounds more accurate in terms of the law than a full-blown motorcycle. I should not have to listen to a cop's threats that I cannot even ride an electric bicycle without having to go through the hassle of going to court to fight something that is mostly accepted all over this country.

Please do something like lots of other states have done to prevent us hobbyists from being harassed from cops who have been given too much authority and take our vague laws too seriously. I should not need to be pulled over and asked for my license, registration, and insurance if I cannot even get the thing registered to begin with. Please do not stifle our growing hobby, and more importantly, help our growing number of hobbyists feel young again and save a ton of money in the process. If you want to see how ecstatic people become after first building and riding a motorized bicycle, then take a look at what some people are saying at MotoredBikes.com and even check out "The Crash Course for MotoredBike Noobs" I created there at this direct link: http://www.motoredbikes.com/showthread.php?t=10392

Thanks for listening,
Jason
 
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I do not think that a person over the age of 16 should be forced to have a drivers license to ride a motorized bicycle... Happy Riding from - Mountainman --- motorized bicycle - under 2hp - with pedals - to obey all bicycle laws...
 
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sparky

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I'll amend that.

I really need more support from the "good" states that are MB-friendly.

Now to compile a list of senators and representatives, and then we can just start bombarding them until we are heard (that means get a response back).

EDIT: By more support from the MB-friendly states, I was looking for juicy details like limitations, requirements, fines, etc. I've seen two or three different ways that NH treats "mopeds" or whatever they wanna call 'em, and all of them sound better than the way I could be treated in my state.
 
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bluegoatwoods

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Sparky, I think you letter is fine. If you add some stress on the need for our society to cut down on fuel consumption, you might be even more convincing. Good luck.
 
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