Which model Whizzer?

Discussion in 'Whizzer Motorized Bicycles' started by Golddustpeak, Feb 15, 2009.

  1. Golddustpeak

    Golddustpeak New Member

    I'm starting to think about the purchase of a Whizzer to ride around here in the mountains of Colorado (7200' +).

    It appears that I might have a choice of:
    Pacemaker II
    Ambassador II

    Yes I'll be looking to gain a bit more POWER!

    In reading the forums it appears that the NE5's and later motor will lend its self to mods. better than the earlier motors used in the Panther and Pacemaker II.

    I'm also worried about the overweight and wimpy performance of the Ambassador II, can anything be done with it?

    My thoughts are leaning towards the NE5.

    Now my question to all you Whizzer experts is which one would you choose and why?

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  2. jbcruisin

    jbcruisin Member

    Hi Golddustpeak,
    I have a 99 & have the NE upgrades & more done to mine. It runs great!! If I were starting over I'd buy a newer NE5 ( make sure it's an NE5 & not one of the earlier WC1's). There isn't much you have to do to make them bullet proof. I think that an NE5 would give you the most power & reliability. The NE5 would also give you the best retro look.
    Good luck,
  3. Which Whizzer?

    Hi Golddust, EVERYONE will have an opinion on this, but let me give you mine here.

    Given the choices you mention I would choose NE5, and here is why. On late '04 (early release of 05 model) the NE5 came out. With the introduction of NE5 some rather difficult problems that had been seen on the 99-04 models were superceeded with new designed parts. This engine is much stronger than the earlier model.

    This is a true motor bike, and this is the thing that would deter me from Ambassador, as it is in motorcycle class.

    NE-r is new drive system, non-traditional, and yet an unknown factor amoung some of us older guys, and to me, sticking with what you know has some merit!

    So, IF your bike was to be of the traditional Whizzer type, the NE-5 OR an upgraded wc-1 bike would be the best choices for you.

    IF you wanted motorcycle, then Ambassador is the cantidate, if you want to go new-style, the NE-r is available.

    Easy deal for me,

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  4. august

    august Member

    Are you talking new machines, or used?

    If you are talking new ones, I have only seen one place that offers those models listed as new ones.

    I won't mention any names, but I was warned about one such dealer. I was advised to check with BBB about this particular seller.

    I did that, and thankfully so. This seller had about four pages of business practice violations, and had paid and was in the process of paying lots of fines for everything from changing products ordered to something else, and not refunding payments, and just plain not shipping anything at all. He also had lots of motor scooters for sale on his web site, as well as the models of Whizzers you had listed.

    I mention this just to give a heads up. If this doesn't apply to you, forget I said anything.

    I almost sent this guy a lot of money. Forewarned is forearmed.

    Regards August
  5. KilroyCD

    KilroyCD Active Member

    I have no experience with the Ambassador or NE-R, so I cannot give you any feedback on those models. I have a 2005 NE-5, and my brother has a 2000 WC-1 (with the NE upgrade performed to the engine). I feel these two models give you the flexibility to do a number of modifications that could enhance the performance at your altitude.
  6. bill green

    bill green Member

    Hi I would use A late modle NE5 with about 300.00 worth of engine mods ang about 200.00 in tires and double extruded rims ...............Bill
  7. KilroyCD

    KilroyCD Active Member

    I know who you're talking about, and he has been discussed in length on this forum. I don't believe he's a member here...
  8. RdKryton

    RdKryton Active Member

    Between Ebay and Craigslist it is not hard to find a low mileage 2005 and up NE5. That is the route I would go because of all the modification possibilities to enhance performance.

  9. ohio frank

    ohio frank New Member

    i would like to know about the tire and rim upgrades yer talking about. those double extruded rims. do they keep the tire from coming off the rim when you have flat?
  10. Egor

    Egor Guest

    Gold Dust - I have a NE5 with all the mods, I like it and works well for what it is. A four stroke is the best engine to use in high altitude, the two stroke looses most of the power at high Altitude. One thing is how many hill will you have to negotiate? The whizzer is not the best for hills. It could be if you were able to lower the gearing. Mine will clean up 40mph easy, that is not necessary I average 30 If it were more centered to that speed it would accelerate better the rpm would be higher, but would also climb hills. Ford for there cars in the 40's made a higher compression engine called Denver, they were highly sought after for the increase in HP. You could also go for the High Compression Head. The Whizzer is a fun machine especially for time travel, it takes you back to a more simple place. Have fun, Dave

    PS: Quinton is coming out with a new four stroke kit, I think everyone is looking forward to his kit. It is supposed to be priced around the Happy Time kits. He is the Whizzer Guru and I think has the fastest known Whizzer (68mph?)
  11. KilroyCD

    KilroyCD Active Member

    Egor, I'm sure the price will be more than the HT kits, as the engine alone usually sells more than a complete Happy Time kit. I believe Quenton had said the price will fall somewhere between the price of a Happy Time and a Whizzer, with it being closer to the HT.
  12. bill green

    bill green Member

    Hi the rims are Atomlab and you can get them in 24 or 26 inch 36 spoke and yes they are A high edge rim and very stable . There about 50.00 each from any good bicycle shop..Hope this helps .......Bill
    Last edited: Feb 17, 2009
  13. ohio frank

    ohio frank New Member

    thanks bill. i am heading down to the bike shop. you have helped me feel safer.
  14. Golddustpeak

    Golddustpeak New Member

    Well my new NE5 is here!!!!!
    Thanks to all for your recommendations of the NE5.

    Special thanks to Bill Green who supplied it.

    Lookout Quenton there will soon be motor parts headed your way.
  15. bill green

    bill green Member

    Howdy Your jet pack will be in the mail with paper work this monday..Have Fun....Bill
  16. RusticoRay

    RusticoRay Member

    Whizzers come with a Jet Pack! What oh wait a carburator jet pack sorry. Thought I missed out on something nevermind.
  17. RusticoRay

    RusticoRay Member

    On second thought I did recently get a jet pack in the form of Quentons motor work all I can say is 110miles of WOW so far. Also decided to name my whizzer Leeanardo after said whizzer artist.
    Last edited: Feb 28, 2009