Who makes a long lasting clutch (2 stroke)

[Deleted member 27811]

The small pads drop heat faster---right? With the loss of support of the webbing you would think the torque would twist the cage and collapse the ring.

 

[Street Ryderz]

Is it just me or does that special clutch look like a regular one with the "bars" between 3 pads simply removed so 5 larger pads could be used in place of 15 smaller ones.. My initial thought is that a dremel and a 4x5in pad of clutch material with about half an hour of spare time and you could make exactly the same thing.

You could for sure!

 

[Frankenstein]

The small pads drop heat faster---right? With the loss of support of the webbing you would think the torque would twist the cage and collapse the ring.

There's more metal between the 3 than what's in just a single woodruff key.. So I guess it would be strong enough. Maybe leave just a tiny bit of the bars protruding and give the pads notches for some extra security?

Remember even the engineers sending ships into space are saying they HOPE the design is good, at least in our case we aren't betting against loosing a billion dollar rocket, just a $90 motor at worst.

 

[Street Ryderz]

The small pads drop heat faster---right? With the loss of support of the webbing you would think the torque would twist the cage and collapse the ring.

Not really the small pads get quite hot when they slip and that's the problem higher output engines have with them,The larger surface area of the large pads bite much better and therefore dont slip and create the heat witch makes the small (stock)ones slip even more.As for the basket since the plates grab the pads and it's that grip that transfers the power to the output gear through the shaft not the basket it shouldn't be an issue,The basket is always spining (engine running) and the pads will slip before breaking one of the webs.

 

[Frankenstein]

Not really the small pads get quite hot when they slip and that's the problem higher output engines have with them,The larger surface area of the large pads bite much better and therefore dont slip and create the heat witch makes the small (stock)ones slip even more.As for the basket since the plates grab the pads and it's that grip that transfers the power to the output gear through the shaft not the basket it shouldn't be an issue,The basket is always spining (engine running) and the pads will slip before breaking one of the webs.

But the torque off the outer gear is spinning the pads via those webs, the plate grabs the pads not the metal gear, so the only place those pads are getting energy from has to be the bars/web.

 

[Street Ryderz]

But the torque off the outer gear is spinning the pads via those webs, the plate grabs the pads not the metal gear, so the only place those pads are getting energy from has to be the bars/web.

Because the plates grab the pads yes some of the initail torque is transfered to the webbing reatining the pads but once seated it basicly becomes one peice with the power being transfered evenly.

 

[Frankenstein]

Because the plates grab the pads yes some of the initail torque is transfered to the webbing reatining the pads but once seated it basicly becomes one peice with the power being transfered evenly.

If you are suggesting it would work without the webs in between then I'd be willing to bet a thousand dollars against ten of yours that it would not work.

 

[Frankenstein]

To be clear our clutches are 3 piece, a gear with holes to hold the pads, and a plate behind and a plate in front, since the 2 plates spin together instead of one spinning with the gear and pads it's not possible to work with without those webs, there are other clutches that are similar but with a solid plate behind the pads which is part of the mech holding the pads.

 

[Street Ryderz]

To be clear our clutches are 3 piece, a gear with holes to hold the pads, and a plate behind and a plate in front, since the 2 plates spin together instead of one spinning with the gear and pads it's not possible to work with without those webs, there are other clutches that are similar but with a solid plate behind the pads which is part of the mech holding the pads.

That's true but what I'm saying is that the webbs dont take the whole load once the plates are fully engaged it put's the load across the whole surface area,witch is even greater with the larger pads.

 

[Frankenstein]

Is there something I'm not catching here? Unless I'm getting as looney as your money I can't see how that would work if those webs were not there.