Why complain about Fast Bikes.

Discussion in 'Performance Mods' started by 210061741, May 21, 2010.

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  1. 210061741

    210061741 Guest

    I'm wondering why some people insist on bashing bikes with performance engines.

    I see it constantly. Beating up the guys that do a good job of rebuilding a bicycle engine.

    The facts are....

    how many people only run 50cc or under?
    Not many.
    Yup all those 60 cc engines even stock don't meet regs.

    How many people have an automatic transmission.
    Even fewer.
    If you have a clutch lever it's not automatic.
    And that makes even the 48cc engines illegal.

    How many people use a shift kit.
    A whole heck of alot and every bike with a shift kit is illegal.
    Nuvinci hubs included.

    How many people have an engine rated over 2 HP.
    Just about everyone. All the 4 strokes included.

    So unless your running a wal mart electric i'm sure your bike is illegal in one way or another.

    Even the 4 strokes .....I don't know of any that have a top speed of less than 30 mph.

    The point being all of these bikes sit in 1 grey area or another.
    So please quit bashing people saying your gonna get my mb banned.

    Your mb is just as illegal as mine and thats the bottom line.

    What we need is people to stand up to lawmakers and fight for realistic and reasonable laws.

    It's the lawmakers that are in the wrong not the creative people.

  2. Al.Fisherman

    Al.Fisherman Active Member

    I'm running a 66/80 cc, and manual clutch... 100% legal.
  3. SimpleSimon

    SimpleSimon Active Member

    "I'm running a 47.9 cc HT with a centrifugal clutch and a pull starter to a jackshaft, which the pedal chain runs to on the opposite end. The jackshaft drives a pair of sprockets on the inner ends of the two half-axles in my trike conversion rear end. No clutch, thumb throttle, one brake lever for all three disc brakes.

    Perfectly legal.

    My new project is a semi-upright tadpole crank forward electric, with 2 350 watt hub motors in the 20 inch front wheels, pedal power to the rear wheel. Getting the batteries I want is going to be the next major hurdle. By the way, the tadpole is framed with salvaged bed frame angle iron, a downtube from a donor frame, and a pair of 20 inch BMX suspension forks for the front end. I intend to add a rear rack for a two-speed capable friction drive on the rear with an EH035 engine at some point.

    It too will be perfectly legal.

    Bicycles are designed around the power inputs a human frame can provide, not an engine - especially not a high performance engine. They are NOT MOTORCYCLES and are not built for such stresses. If you want motorcycle speeds and the joy of building your own, get a copy of the requirements for a motorcycle in your state and build a motorcycle.

    As far as I am concerned, speeds in excess of 30 mph except on long downhills are unreasonable, unsafe, and worst of all, bring negative attention to everyone who puts a weedwacker engine on a bike for a little fun and assistance with hills. I would not try to get your or your machine banned, but if it were confiscated for reckless endangerment and driving an unlicensed and unsafe motor vehicle I'd have no sympathy.
    Last edited: May 21, 2010
  4. RdKryton

    RdKryton Active Member

    I don't bash but I understand the reason for it. In a nut shell it brings unwanted attention to us. It only takes one guy with a hopped up, loud MB riding around with his hair on fire showing off to anyone who will watch to bring bad press and the attention of the local police. It's one thing to have the power when needed to get up a hill but another thing entirely to ride around flat out all the time. It all depends on how you use the power that will get the unwanted attention. The people that bash are just looking out for the whole MB community. It only takes one to give us all a bad name.. Just my opinion. I know I know, opinions are like butt holes. Everybody has one...

  5. jim_himself

    jim_himself Member

    I'm running a 46.7cc motor on a friction drive....It has a centrifugal clutch... with just the air intake made much larger it goes well over 45mph gone 51mph... and its completely legal...

    while i see why people have no sympathy towards the performance mb's if they crash or get it confiscated, i see no reason why they insist on bashing people who do, or trying to get the bikes banned...especially since if the people who are into building the performance motors didn't do i, they wouldn't have half the stuff on their motorbike (expansion chamber, shift kit, the better sprocket adapters) since all of those parts where developed by the people who make performance bikes.

    and since the bikes like mine that are still legal, and go very fast are just as bad, proving that laws really don't protect anyone.

    I think that anything under 80cc should be legal no matter what you have done to it.
    Last edited: May 21, 2010
  6. pedalless

    pedalless Member

    HAHA very funny mr dremel and a lounge chair that boast he is a 2 stroke genious, spend some more time with your 6 kids to 3 different woman rather than sitting on your *** with a dremel and a happy time engine you have done NOTHING that hasn't been done before idiot. Get a grip seriously, you have bigger responsibilities than playing with ****y china motors, i read your about to spend your current girlfriends money on equipment WTF sort of perosn are you?Q?!#@@?!
    Last edited: May 22, 2010
  7. 2canPlay

    2canPlay New Member

    the kind of person that will spend anyone's money but his own.
    screwed? brain? bull****. pirate got screwed. 210061741 kept all the pirate jugs he was supposed to port then tries to sell them here. http://www.motoredbikes.com/showpost.php?p=271143

    now he wants your money too.
    ask yourself why all the people he has worked with will not go anywhere near him again.
    Last edited: May 22, 2010
  8. motorpsycho

    motorpsycho Active Member

    I'm running an internally stock 49 c.c. chinese 2 stroke with an expansion chamber, custom made muffler /baffle, high flow air cleaner with a very well tuned carb.
    a 41 tooth rear sprocket, 20" frame and 20" wheels...no shift kit.
    my bike will run 28 mph, which is fast enough for me.
    I could probably get more top speed if i dropped to a 38 or 36 tooth rear sprocket.
    legal or not, who really gives a ****?
    the two cops that i have ever seen while riding, gave me the thumbs up and stopped me so they could look at my bike.
    I think too many people are worried about getting in trouble with a m.b. , so in that case, why build one if you are so worried about getting in trouble?
    come on, these m.b.'s are somewhat of a novelty (here anyway) and when people see mine, they ask a ton of questions about how I built it.
    I have only seen 2 other m.b.'s here and one of them is my friends that i helped build.
    but then again, i live in a very small, rural county...i don't ride around in the city or downtown. I have ridden in town on a few occasons (when i saw the 2 cops) but as long as you follow the rules of the road, and do not act like a moron, i think the majority of people (law enforcement included) would just smile and wave as you go by.
    i'm talking about what i have experienced HERE...i have no idea what it's like in other states. i guess i'm pretty lucky to be where i am, and that i don't have to worry about getting in trouble.
    if you ride your bike, and have to constantly be worried about getting in trouble, that does not seen like a whole lot of fun to me.
  9. 210061741

    210061741 Guest

    There you go again MR EGG FRYING puiston scorching worthless billet head.

    And Pirate Cycles Screwed ME.

    I did the engine designs, the pipe designs, build the website for what to get dropped because i said the billet head is ****.

    It is ****. ****. ****.
  10. 210061741

    210061741 Guest

    Police don't bother us here either.

    And far as i know most of the states require 50cc and under.

    But it is nice to see a few people do have fully comkpliant MB's.

    Great Work yiou guys.
  11. 210061741

    210061741 Guest

    And far as spending my wifes settlement.

    She supports me and our dreams all the way.

    Mybe thats the proble here.....I actually have plans and dreams.

    As far as Justin Getting Screwed Bull SSSSHHHHIIITTTT.

    He got 6 cylinders from me and i never got paid for them.

    I did 6 months worth of non stop R & D for a few parts.

    Now im jobless because when they got mad they ratted me out to my employer.
    BikeGuyJoe and Paul of motorbicycling logged my logins and sent them to GE to get me fired.

    Good People Right.
    Thay cost me $60,000 a year so tell me who got screwed.
  12. 210061741

    210061741 Guest

    And one more thing JIM.

    At least i don't tell people i have there parts and take there money and pay my rent.
    You take peoples money and pool it until you can afford to buy a simple piece of bar stock.

    That's honest mann real honest.

    Then you don't answer the phone or your e-mail.

    And after months of waiting you send out new and improved motor mounts that crack in 2 days.


    Thats honesty for ya.
  13. 210061741

    210061741 Guest

    Like this thread about the wonderful billet head.


    It buys and it installs one manic Mechanic High Comp. Billet Head from Pirate Cycle in my PK80 and my bike loss 10mi/hr. Some recommendation to improve its performance or used as ash tray on the table

    Thats Righ 2CANPLAY

    2 can play buddy....you should know by now to leave well enough alone.
  14. 210061741

    210061741 Guest

    ohh i love this post.

    Originally Posted by Creative Engineering


    If you look at the chart on this page you will see that the BPR prefix designates a 3/4" reach plug.

    Actually that is incorrect. "BPR" does not refer to the reach at all. Read the charts carefully. Reach is designated by the suffix.

    The OP wrote: "BPR6IX". No such animal that I know of. I think he left the H out. BPR6HIX is the iridium plug. 1/2" reach.

    Suffix S = 3/8" reach.

    1/2" may still contact though. I imagine he would hear it. Head gasket leak sounds likely. Buy a nice billet head and use a "fabric" gasket? Yikes.
  15. 210061741

    210061741 Guest

    What whats the matter ???

    Forget to pay the darkside to remove the threads that tell the truth.

    Better hurry.
  16. 210061741

    210061741 Guest

  17. 210061741

    210061741 Guest


    Cat got your tounge?

    Yup it's hard to defend yourself from the truth.

    Guess you shoulda kept your nose in your own buisness.

    Better do it wile you can.

    Once me and my wife get her money i'll show these people how long it really takes to make sprockets and heads.

    Then Jim you won't have a buisness.

    It's called customer support.....Jim maybe you should talk to Brendon about Customer support.

    He allways seems to have the answer for you.
  18. SimpleSimon

    SimpleSimon Active Member

    Gentlemen (I am, quite frankly, being overly-generous with that term), could you lot please confine your sniping and you interpersonal "war" to some other venue?

    The OP was a tad bit excessive, but it asked a reasonable question, and most replies were equally reasonable. pedalless, 2canPlay, 210061741 - please check your animosity at the door to the forum, and take your fights elsewhere.
  19. 210061741

    210061741 Guest


    I agree with you.
    I am just fed up with it all.

    I didn't provoke anything but im tired of Jim Justin and Taco ruining my threads.
    I sent PM's to the admin in the past.
    And nothing was done.

    If i am attacked i will defend myself.
    Otherwise i just go about my buisness posting useful information around here.

    That's all i want to do.