Yet another wierd Aussie

Discussion in 'Introduce Yourself' started by Peter, Apr 6, 2008.

  1. Peter

    Peter New Member

    G'day Folks,
    I have been lurking for a while now and figured I was way over due to pipe up and say hello.

    My current ride is a Greenspeed GLR, I have been seriously considering going down the power assist route for a while now and have already done a couple of back flips on how I am going to do it.

    I was initially planning on one of the micro Honda 4 strokes, driving through a CVT to one the the HD hubs with the LH freewheel. But I can't bring myself to listen to an infernal combustion engine.

    For now, I am pretty much settled on Cyclones new 650w motor, and a ping LiFePO of at least 20 Ah/ 24v. I don't have the ground clearance, or a straight chain path to let me use the motor 'in-line'. So I am tossing up either the Elation or Swiss freewheeling crank. Or possibly putting a tandem stoker crank on the LH side and driving that direct with the Cyclone. Not sure yet if I am happy to HAVE to pedal with the motor running.

    It is all going to boil down to the various costs of the freewheeling cranks. 140 Euro plus freight is a **** expensive set of cranks, but I am still waiting on a reply from Elation. Update, just got a reply from Elation. Looks like I will have to ante up for the Swiss freewheel :|

    Questions for those who have been there, what sort of range are you electric guys getting per AH ? I fully understand there are a huge number of variables, just after an indication.

    I need to be able to do my run to work, 30k return, basically flat, at around 45 kph ish. will the 24v/20Ah cover this comfortably?

    I want to do assisted 50 to 100 km max rides. Thinking of getting two packs of 20 AH, and running them in parallel. Is there any reason this can't be done? , I would separate them for charging.


  2. graucho

    graucho Active Member

    Hi Peter. Welcome to MBc! Home of many answers, and awaiting your ideas.
    All of you guys are great! Read the electric sections, then post detailed questions and someone will perk up

    General request to all new members.
    Please, before posting any questions, do a search. Then READ,READ,READ.
    There is a ton of information here. Many of your engine and performance issues in the Garage & Tech/Mech Help have already been covered. Here at MBc we are the home of nearly all MoteredBike questions. If you search and are unable to find your answer, don't hesitate to post your question. Were here for each other! Enjoy! :grin:}
    Here's a great post link to get you started.
  3. fetor56

    fetor56 Guest

    G'day & welcome to MBc.
    I'm an "infernal combustion engine" kinda guy so i can't help u there...other ppl can however.......enjoy yourself.
  4. Peter

    Peter New Member

    Hehe, no slight intended. I am part closet greenie, but I also operate small steam locomotives as a hobbie, so I am a bit biased against IC engines. :)
  5. BoltsMissing

    BoltsMissing Active Member

    Welcome !
    I hope to see electric bicycle long distance issues solved.

    But for now it seems the IC 2-stroke HT is proving a winner in many aspects of commuting in regards to affordability, for me so far it's been reliable. Maintaining can be a bit of a constant challenge, but it's not all that complicated and can be worked to a routine once the common bugs are sorted.
    Lot's of info here, fotos and history on the motoredbike.

    All the Best

  6. BSA

    BSA Guest

    Welcome to the forum.

  7. quay1962

    quay1962 Guest

    welcome to MBc, good luck and happy motoring!
  8. Abeagle

    Abeagle Guest

    Welcome to MBc. :cool:
  9. Alaskavan

    Alaskavan Guest

    Welcome to MBc. Have you checked out the Bionx system Utah Trikes puts on the WhizzWheelz Path? The same setup should work well on the Greenspeed. I don't really know much about the electrics (I'm allergic to electricity), but I will say that these tadpoles are an amazing platform for motorization. Keep us updated.
  10. mickey

    mickey Guest

    Welcome Pete
  11. Pete

    Pete Guest

    I would love to go the Bionx route, mainly for the automatic proportional assist it provides. I can't swallow the cost ( around 1800 AUD ) and the guys at Greenspeed have apparently had some reliability problems, and some serious warranty headaches. Don't know if it was just a particular rider being han fisted, or a general trend. Also not keen on the cogging that apparently comes with brushless hub motor's, though I have never ridden one to actually feel how significant the drag is.

    These are pics of the daily rider of Greenspeeds CEO , Ian. I plan on copying his setup, though I don't think I am game to weld mounts on, not yet at least.

    Hopefully I will be ordering a 650w Cyclone in the next few weeks. I plan on doing a review once I get things sorted, including pics.

    The GLR is an amazing platform even without the assist. To date my best speed run has been 92 kph. Interesting to say the least, as the road was a bit rough... all the back wheel movement comes up through the seat to my neck, and at that speed the frequency was higher than my eye muscles could keep up with so everything went blurry. Pretty freaky when I was not expecting it. Chickened out near the bottom and braked down to 70 so I could get around a corner without comming off.

    Electricity is all about smoke.. When you let the smoke out, things stop working. The darker the smoke, the more expensive it is to put back in.. :)
  12. Demosthenese

    Demosthenese Guest

  13. Ozzie

    Ozzie New Member

    Have you considered a steam driven bike? Imagine that, chuffing down the street on your one-of-a-kind lococycle.
  14. quay1962

    quay1962 Guest

    steam cycle

    funny you should mention a lococycle...i met an old chap at the local eagles dinner here in town, and he has a friend with here is what i found on our forum on the subject: also right up your alley here is this one too: my question would be how do ya heat the h2O? welcome again!:grin: