2 stroke oil importance in quality

Discussion in '2-Stroke Engines' started by tacoshell4, Oct 2, 2009.

  1. tacoshell4

    tacoshell4 Member

    I have worked on small equipment (landscaping) for a few yrs now and have seen the importance in the quality of 2 stroke oil. Mostly clogged exaust ports. What brand of oil do you use? maybee a small poll. At work I use Amsoil Sabre and at home I use Maxima Super M I buy it in 5 gallon buckets LOL I have alot of 2 smokes and I get it for 130$$$ my cost retails for 220
     

  2. mattysids

    mattysids Member

    Lucas semi-synthetic here

    works wonders in creating compression with the huge gaps suffered in these HT engines
     
  3. seanhan

    seanhan Member

    I also use

    Lucas semi-synthetic 50:1 mix..
     
  4. Yamaha racing premix 40:1.....9bucks a pint...will never run anything else...nomo seized pistons or broken rings...phat
     
  5. tacoshell4

    tacoshell4 Member

    you run 50;1 in a happytime? how long? 50:1is a good number i think
     
  6. Skyliner70cc

    Skyliner70cc Active Member

    2.5 oz of synthetic oil mixed with anywhere from .5 to 1 oz of DEGUMMED 1st press castor oil.
     
    Last edited: Oct 3, 2009
  7. seanhan

    seanhan Member

    No

    I run 50:1 in a Tanaka 32
     
  8. Pablo

    Pablo Motored Bikes Sponsor

    Pretty much what I do. With other stuff thrown in if I'm in the mood.
     
  9. tacoshell4

    tacoshell4 Member

    who makes degummed 1st press castor? off the top of my head I know maxima makes 927 and klotz has benol is this what u mean?
     
  10. Pablo

    Pablo Motored Bikes Sponsor

    No. Straight castor. I buy Sig. Mix it with Amsoil Dominator.
     
  11. javelina1

    javelina1 Member

    I put two tanks of dino oil, for the break in, (WallyWorld stuff - not the outboard oil..). Then went with the Maxima Super M. Have been running Maxima Super M for the last 4 tanks. I plan to switch to the Maxima 927 after I finish up the "M" bottle.

    My Grubee Gen II is running solid so far.
     
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  13. arceeguy

    arceeguy Active Member

    If you really want to use castor oil, just go to your local hobby shop and look in the section where they sell model airplane fuel. They'll have "degummed" castor oil in that section.

    I don't think that these happy times engines get hot enough or rev high enough to take advantage of the properties of castor oil. At this point, I am just using Pennzoil TC rated two stroke oil. 32:1 for everything two stroke in my garage. I was using Mobil 1 MX2T synthetic and it was very good two stroke oil. Definitely overkill for what I was using it for, but I bought few gallons of the stuff a few years back when they discontinued the stuff and it was on closeout. (cheaper than dino oil) The advantage of the synthetic was virtually no carbon deposits in the exhaust ports and ring lands.
     
  14. Skyliner70cc

    Skyliner70cc Active Member

    I abuse my HT engines with severe use going up mountains for miles and miles on hot summer days. I've had my exhaust pipe turn cherry red from lugging the engine for miles on end going slow (not enough airflow over engine cooling fins). Never had an engine seize on me from overheating or lubrication failure. I attribute this to a touch of castor in each gallon of fuel I use.
     
  15. arceeguy

    arceeguy Active Member

    In your particular case, I guess castor might be a good addition! I can't imagine stressing out an HT engine to the point where the exhaust pipe starts to glow! The only abuse mine sees is the occassional WFO sprint at 32 mph for a few minutes down a deserted road. Other than that, it is putt-putt at 20mph.
     
  16. seanhan

    seanhan Member

    Wonder what kind of oil the use in China ???

    Probualy the cheapest
    on the planet ..
    like 50 cents a quart....

    Wonder if they have gas stations that sell premix ??

    would be cool if somebody sold a small oil injector you could use on the engines ... That could be dialed up for different ratios.
     
  17. arceeguy

    arceeguy Active Member

    Well, my guess is that they specify the low ratio mix (16:1 - 20:1) because two stroke specific oil may not be widely available in some areas of China or other developing countries where the HT was used for basic transportation. Some old 2 smoke equipment I own say you can use regular motor oil at a low ratio (16:1) OR you can use two stroke oil at a higher ratio like 32:1.

    Oil injection systems on two strokes are many times are disabled in favor of pre-mixed fuel. If the oil injection system clogs, you blow up your engine. Much safer to pre-mix and know your engine is getting lubrication.
     
  18. srdavo

    srdavo Active Member

    re: Wonder what kind of oil the use in China ???

    I don't think they sell these HT kits in China anymore. I believe they just export them to the poor countries. :whistling:
     
  19. arceeguy

    arceeguy Active Member

    :rofl: They're riding around in Hummers now.
     
  20. seanhan

    seanhan Member

    I have

    A old sears 7.5 HP outboard from the 60's and the book says to use mator oil in the gas ... When did 2 stroke oil come out ?????
     
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