Charged with driving while license suspended and operating an unregistered vehicle

Discussion in 'Laws, Legislation & Emissions' started by Simonator, Sep 22, 2008.

  1. Simonator

    Simonator Guest

    I been riding my bike around my area for the past 6 months with no problems at all. I have motored by many cops without being pulled over. Cops have been behind me. They just pass me and keep on going. I know that several cops in my area must know my bike is motorized.
    I rode to Grand Haven, Michigan this weekend to visit my brother. Yesterday I started to ride up to the store. On the way there i looked back and saw a cop following me. I kept on going. Then when I got to the store I pulled into the parking lot. He put his lights on. The cop was a white male probably in his late 20s. So he approaches me and and said, "that's a motor vehicle, it is supposed to be registered". I said that I did not know that. I said Many states have a pedal assist law that classifys these as bicycles. I said I thought this state was one of them. He disagreed with me and said that all motor vehicles have to be registered, even electric scooters. I didn't want to push my luck so I just shut up and gave him my ID and let him go back to the car. He did ask me the engine size. I lied and said 49cc. I knew I was getting a ticket. He was in the car for a good 10 minutes. He comes back and hands me a ticket for 2 misdemeanors. Driving while license suspended, and operating an unregistered vehicle. This is total BS. He charged me with the same charges as if I was operating a car!!! I could go to jail for 93 days for each violation!!! This is rediculous. What harm am I going to do on a bicycle with a motor! Unfortunately, I do not have the funds to hire a lawyer. I am not sure if I am going to fight this, or get a court appointed lawyer to make a deal with the judge. I will keep you all updated as this progresses. I go to court on October 15th. I am pleading not guilty.

    I REFUSE to stop riding my bike. I am going to keep on riding it unless I start getting in trouble for riding it in my area. I stick it to the man!

    :-x:-x:-x:-x:-x
     
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  2. Torques

    Torques Guest

    I am sorry to hear that story. Is there a motorized bicycle statute that exists in Michigan?
     
  3. Simonator

    Simonator Guest

    I believe it is classified as a moped in this state. To ride a moped in Michigan you need a valid drivers license, or a moped license (which you cant get if your license is suspended)

    Michigan sucks.
     
  4. Man. Cross a state line you may as well be entering a whole other country.
     
  5. Zev0

    Zev0 Member

    What disturbs me is that if you KNOW what the law is and you cannot abide by it why cry when you get busted. I know that it sucks. But geeze man, you know you are in the wrong to begin with. Why push your luck?
     
  6. terrence

    terrence Member

    Bummer, bummer. If the fact is such you were in the wrong sorry to say. I really feel
    for you. Sounds like you'll have to start peddling if your not i jail. I'll wish for the best.
     
  7. Simonator

    Simonator Guest

    Because I am young and stupid I guess... i don't know.... I do know that I will not get my license back for a long long time. I built this so I don't have to pedal a bike everywhere. Pedaling everywhere drives me INSANE! I guessed that most cops would let me off with a warning the first time. It's not really a bicycle, and not really a moped. It's something I built. Cops are D*CKS in my brothers town. You know what? There are so many ridiculous laws now days it is almost impossible to obey them all. I swear the law sets you up for failure. What is this country coming to. I guess I am kind of a rebel.
     
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  8. Simonator

    Simonator Guest

    I wont do it unless I start getting nailed in my area. So far cops haven't been messing with me. I just wont ride around in my brothers town anymore.
     
  9. Merlin

    Merlin New Member

    err, maybe you are young and stupid, although the fact you said it yourself hints at enough maturity for self-awareness, at least.

    Rebel? I don't think so.
    James Dean wouldn't bother even noticing you.

    What did you do to lose your license in the first place?
     
  10. s_beaudry

    s_beaudry Member

    Go to court, plead not guilty, speak with the prosecutor and try and explain that you just did not know and beg for mercy from him!

    Michigan sounds like a tough tough state up there!
     
  11. bluegoatwoods

    bluegoatwoods Well-Known Member

    Michigan is my home state. Still a lot of family right in your area. And now I'm ashamed of my home state.

    Yes, it sounds like an MB is a vehicle that should be registered by law. So, yes, you shouldn't have been riding.

    But the cop shouldn't have bothered you. (You were being cool, right?) And the state shouldn't hassle you. Looks like they're going too, but they still shouldn't.

    Sorry to hear about it.
     
  12. Mountainman

    Mountainman Active Member

    hi Simonator

    well if I get stopped -- I may also be in this same boat

    it is a game that we are playing -- knowing the consequences may be harsh...

    I have always told myself --
    Mountainman don't do the crime if you can't do the time

    and the truth of the matter is --
    any jail time done in any way -- sucks hard !!!

    so one day at a time now -- I try to be a good boy
    it's a challenge at times -- but always -- the right thing to do

    ANYWAY -- NOW YOU HAVE BEEN CAUGHT -- NEED DUCKS IN A ROW
    trial by jury we hear -- may bring a deal from DA wishing to avoid the hassle of trial

    Question Simonator -- do you have some paperwork so as to show the court
    that you are within the law ???

    here in Calif -- it appears that under 2 hp -- no license required
    there are some states close to the same laws -- but especially call out
    that in the case of DUI suspension of license -- MAY NOT RIDE A MB...

    even though you have gotten in some trouble in the past
    most of us are pulling for you here
    keep us informed -- what's going on with all of this

    hope that you can come through it on the top side -- so you can

    Ride That Thing - Simonator

    Mountainman
     
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  13. HoughMade

    HoughMade Guest

    Sorry to hear about this.

    One thing everyone here must understand is that local law enforcement generally takes such things as DUI and OWI very seriously- I know the OP was not drinking, but once they saw you didn't have a license, ran your name and discovered why, you were done. No tolerance, no leniency. We can cry about how unfair it is- but that doesn't get us anywhere. This is the way the world works.
     
  14. skyl4rk

    skyl4rk Guest

    That sucks. I know I am running illegally, although I have the papers to apply for a moped tag. I think you can get a separate moped license, separate from the driver's license. The thing is that happy times are not eligible for moped status when over 50cc.

    I would be careful about fighting it if you do not have the money for a good lawyer. I would beg for mercy.
     
  15. Torques

    Torques Guest

    Good lawyers? that's a laugh.
     
  16. Simonator

    Simonator Guest


    Too many points on my license. I kept driving and got caught driving while license suspended a few times. Then I started fleeing police if I thought I could get away. That worked a few times but I eventually got busted for that. Now my license is revoked and I have to pay thousands and thousands of dollars and have a hearing in court to get it back.
     
  17. Simonator

    Simonator Guest

    I was cruising along at about 25 mph when the cop got behind me. I was polite to the cop like I usually am. In the past I usually got off with a warning or a very minor ticket when I am polite and respectful. It didn't happen this time!
     
  18. Simonator

    Simonator Guest

    IT doesn't look like I was obeying the law. The law states that a 2 wheeled vehicle with a 50cc engine or less is a moped. Period. It doesn't say anything about pedal assist. It states that I need a drivers license, or moped license to ride it, and it must be registered.
     
  19. Simonator

    Simonator Guest

    Michigan law states that you are not eligible for a moped license if your drivers license is suspended. This state wants you walking or pedaling your @ss off once you lose your license. No breaks at all. :(
     
  20. Simonator

    Simonator Guest

    Another bad thing is that I am still on probation for fleeing and eluding a few years ago. So, If I am convicted of these charges I could go to jail for violating probation. I doubt that will happen. My P.O. is cool. I was supposed to be off probation by now. The reason I am not is because I haven't paid off my fines yet.
    Those were very bad bad decisions I made in the past when I ran from the law. I totally regret it now. I been trying to do the right thing by pedaling a bike everywhere the past 2 years. If finally drove me nuts to the point I decided there has to be a better way. That is when I discovered happy time kits. I debated about buying one for a while. I was worried about getting in trouble riding it. I finally gave in and bought one.
     
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