GEBE 10 Ga Wheel/Broken Spokes?

Discussion in 'Rack Mounted Engines' started by Bonefish, May 16, 2014.

  1. Bonefish

    Bonefish Member

    Has anyone bought the GEBE 10 Ga Wheel and broke spokes. I've got a Tanaka 40cc, now I notice Gebe doesn't sell the Tanaka 40cc engine. Thanks
     

  2. dchevygod

    dchevygod Member

    With a higher horsepower engine you NEED the velocity HD wheel! I built a 30cc Zenoah 2-stroke that snapped 14g spokes easily "see avatar pic"

    The 14g spokes on most stock wheels will bend, stretch and snap after time with any motor hooked onto one half of the total spokes.

    The HD 12g wheel is a good idea. I was hard on mine while I had it and it never showed any signs of failure.
     
  3. Bonefish

    Bonefish Member

    Ok, so I read that the 105g wheel they sell is really only 12 gauge not 10 gauge. I've also got a robin subaru eh035. Question: Would the engine mount bracket for the GEBE both support both a robin subaru eh035 and a Tanaka pf-4000? If I decided to change engines, or would I have to go to GEBE and get a whole different engine mounting bracket per engine? Thanks
     
  4. dchevygod

    dchevygod Member

    No changes needed, its just an engine swap. Since the Subbie and the Tanaka both have a 76mm clutch the mount is the same.
     
  5. Bonefish

    Bonefish Member

    Thanks, I found a used/almost brand new GEBE for sale. He has the 105 gauge wheel from gebe, but it is not the color I want. If I get the GEBE kit from him, and then order the 105/12 gauge wheel from GEBE will the drive ring be compromised from going from one rim(105gauge) to the new wheel(105 gauge)? Thanks
     
  6. dchevygod

    dchevygod Member

    I got a new sheave because gebe will install it correctly and they use an adhesive on the spokes that prevents sheave slip.

    I still have the sheave I started with on my triple wall Alex rims 14g disc brake wheel. That taught me about a stronger wheel. It can still be used on a proper 12g wheel.

    Why don't you just paint the wheel you can get used or strip the black off?
     
  7. Bonefish

    Bonefish Member

    He wants $150 extra for the black 105gauge GEBE rim. I can get a silver 105 gague GEBE rim from GEBE for $124 shipped free.
     
  8. dchevygod

    dchevygod Member

    Well that sounds like a good bargaining point to get the cost down. Try and haggle, asking never hurt.

    Are you forgetting the cost of sheave as well that balances out.
     
  9. Bonefish

    Bonefish Member

    I got him down to $340 for the GEBE kit with a tanaka 32cc purefire,(it is like brand new) but he will not budge on the $150 extra GEBE rear wheel.
     
  10. dchevygod

    dchevygod Member

    Tell him to keep the engine and throw in the wheel for $30
     
  11. Bonefish

    Bonefish Member

    I already told him to keep the engine, and sell it on ebay. I really didn't want it, but he would not separate and sell the GEBE kit without the Tanaka 32cc purefire engine. So I wouldn't mind having an extra engine laying around if I could get it for $340. Also would come with an extra drive belt and an extra hwy. gear. Just wondering if the transference of his GEBE 105 gauage rim to a new one from GEBE would compromise the drive ring that would come with the kit. Thanks
     
  12. dchevygod

    dchevygod Member

    I think the sheave will be fine going from 12g/12g. If the guy damaged it during removal that's a different story. I would get another sheave personally so I knew it was right. And if it did fail "god forbid" GEBE would replace it I'm sure, they stand by there products.
     
  13. Bonefish

    Bonefish Member

    Got the 105g 12 guage wheel from GEBE with the drive ring installed. Does anyone know if they use glue to glue it to the rim? It looks like there is a substance dripping down the spokes that has hardened. Thanks
     
  14. dchevygod

    dchevygod Member

    I already said they use some kind of adhesive. If there's lots of excess I'd take a razor blade to it and clean it off the spokes. Balance at high rpm on a 26" wheel is very important.
     
  15. Timbone

    Timbone Active Member

    Guys, a 10g spoke can break just as easily as a 14g spoke. It's all about spoke tension. No matter how thick the spoke, if it goes through countless "Tight Loose Tight Loose cycles, it will break, usually at the J-Bend. Think of what happens when you start bending a coat hanger back and forth. It takes a while, but it will break.
     
  16. Bonefish

    Bonefish Member

    I disagree. A 105 G spoke is stronger than a 14G spoke.
     
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