Motorized LandRider in the Snow

Discussion in 'Video Gallery' started by LR Jerry, Mar 26, 2013.

  1. LR Jerry

    LR Jerry Well-Known Member

    At 250 lbs was able to go up any hill at least 8 mph. Roads had some ice on them. Bike shifts 5 gears automatically. Staton Inc setup. Robin Subaru 35 engine 33 cc, 1.6 HP.

     
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  2. geebt48cc

    geebt48cc Member

    LR, that was great. Uno, I know you were, but you really need to be careful when the weathers a ???? Uno, that engine really sounds like it would take you on many trips. Good looking set-up!!!!!~

    Be good,

    Glen
     
  3. LR Jerry

    LR Jerry Well-Known Member

    Yeah got kind of scary when I hit black ice a couple of times. Weather should be getting a lot warmer this week. Hope to have another video out soon with my nephew filming me. Then you'll be able to see just how steep these hills are.
     
  4. geebt48cc

    geebt48cc Member

    Yes, I lived in Knoxville for quite a good while. I know that there are some pretty major hills in the Oak Ridge area. How many miles have you got on the set-up?
     
  5. LR Jerry

    LR Jerry Well-Known Member

    Around 4000.
     
  6. bigoilbob

    bigoilbob Member

    LR, another vote for great video. And I think you had a good vision for your build, in that you thought about what you really wanted and built it.
    A few tech questions. It sounded like your bike was shifting up well under power. Was it? Are the auto shift points adjustable? Whether they are or not, I think you have more than one front sprocket, right? If so, do you shift with it before getting into 7th on your auto shift? And if you do, have you ever inadvertently shifted such that your centrifugal clutch was not fully engaged? Since you can size your sprockets for a close range of engine speeds, what is your range? If you start in your smallest front sprocket (I assume you do), then how fast are you going when your centrifugal clutch engages? Finally, how is your drivetrain/aut shift assembly holding up under your engine power?

    Anyhow, congrats again for a well thought out, well executed build.
     
  7. LR Jerry

    LR Jerry Well-Known Member

    The bike is a 5 speed fully automatic. I don't shift anything thereby meeting my state ( Tennessee ) requirement of an automatic transmission system.
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    I use to run three chainrings up front but now use only a 34 ring. I've use a custom built 5 speed 16-34 freewheel.
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    Yes the shift points are adjustable with the cadence adjuster screw on the derailleur. The setup will shift under full power with no problem. My level ground speed is 29 mph. I'm 250 lbs and can go up any hill here in Tennessee at least 8 mph. On the Staton gearbox the clutch engages around 4000 rpm. The Robin Subaru EHO 35 engine max rpm is 8000. Upshift occur at 7000 rpm and downshifts occur at 5300 rpm.
     
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  8. professor

    professor Active Member

    Very cool Jerry!
     
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  9. LR Jerry

    LR Jerry Well-Known Member

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    The hub is a Staton Inc hub, the spokes are very high quality stainless steel. The rim is a double walled. I custom built a 5 speed freewheel (34, 28, 24, 20,16). I use a LandRider derailleur. I've been riding the bike for 3 years now. So far no failures. So I'm not really sure what you're talking about.
     
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  10. LR Jerry

    LR Jerry Well-Known Member

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    The derailleur is a LandRider autoshift derailleur. Staton didn't build the freewheel, I built it. Staton Inc does build the hub its not a department store hub. The hub has a heavy duty axle and 4 sealed bearings. David also machines his own hub shells and axles. It has right hand treads on the right side and left hand treads on the left side. The rim is double walled SunLite. I now run Kendra 838 tires on the front and rear. The tire is patterned a motorcycle tire. I also use an extra thick slime filled tube. I laced and dish the wheel myself. It's cost was close to $230. I custom fit the derailleur drive pulley behind the my custom built 5 speed 34-16 freewheel.

    Here is another video.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGDGIIdn--s&feature=youtube_gdata_player
     
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  11. IbedaYank

    IbedaYank Member

    Please post pics of mill and lathe and if did cnc conversions a how to would be help full.
    I mean after all you are saying you BUILT the parts
     
  12. LR Jerry

    LR Jerry Well-Known Member

    Well the only thing I said I built was the 5 speed 34-16 freewheel. I didn't say I made the freewheel. In the english language the word build means to assemble, to put together. The word make means to create. The carpenter builds a house. However he probably didn't make the 2X4.

    So one doesn't necessarily need the equipment you speak of to build anything. If one was making something then you may need such equipment.
     
  13. IbedaYank

    IbedaYank Member

    so all 2x4s come pre cut to just the length the carpenter needs. What store sells a 2x4 thats 40inches long to use as a header for a doorway??? ..... then why do I have over $500 in saws to cut wood? People have been changing cogs on freewheels and cassets for YEARS nothing new here..

    Just what have you made from scratch on your bike that involves drawing out a design getting the materials and then making the parts to put on the bike?
     
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  14. LR Jerry

    LR Jerry Well-Known Member

    Who said anything about cutting a 2X4 to length? The carpenter probably didn't cut the 2X4 out of a log at a saw mill. Since this process seems to be confusing you. Nor did I ever say changing the cogs on a freewheel or cassette was anything new. So please read a little more thoroughly and not add things in I didn't say.
     
  15. IbedaYank

    IbedaYank Member

    come on Jerry what parts did you design and make from stock materials. ANY????
     
  16. LR Jerry

    LR Jerry Well-Known Member

    You're still not getting it. I didn't say I made it; I said I built it. Did you make your bike or did you build it?
     
  17. IbedaYank

    IbedaYank Member

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    I would say making more of mine then you ever will
     
  18. LR Jerry

    LR Jerry Well-Known Member

    Well I can weld too and bend tubing. I'm also very good with electronics. There are many things I've done on my bike with welds. In the very near future I'm going have a part machine out to attach a Shimano HG 37 freewheel core to a White Industries Trails freewheel. This will give you a multiple cog freewheel with incredible strength. I plan to upgrade my 33 cc RS engine to a Honda GXH 50. I'll be doing more welds to reinforce the rear drop outs.

    I have a talent of taking existing things blending them together (sometimes with slight mods) to create what I want. Still on many occasions I've used welders, grinders, drills, saws or whatever to make parts for bikes. Consider more so what a person has built rather than how it was built.

    Just because one takes parts from different thing doesn't mean they're any less inventive and creative than someone building from scratch. Different people can have different ways of doing the same thing.
     
  19. LR Jerry

    LR Jerry Well-Known Member

    You can get on motorbicycling.com go to the gears hubs transmission section I did a tread on how to assemble the freewheel. You can also click onto my profile there and I have an album on how to build the freewheel.

    As for single speeds consider a shiftkit with a Kilduff auto shifter then you could have a 3 speed automatic. He has two kinds the video is of the rim driven one. The other one is belt driven like the LandRider derailleur. Both types shift a Shimano Nexus 3 speed. He will sell either shifter by itself. You'd have to ask about the belt driven one. Brian Kilduff 818-758-9283.
     
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