zbox/happytime?

Discussion in 'Dealer Reviews' started by suspect, Sep 17, 2009.

  1. suspect

    suspect Member

    can i get some comments please on this clip which explains some of the issues a guy has had here in NZ with the zbox, what im most curious about is; are their actually any different motor manufacturers?
    and, if not, is your american(chinese) 'happy time' motor the same thing?
    it certainly appears to me that it is, i was wondering if anybody has any inside info they might like to share, im new to all this so hopefully im not stepping on toes and bringing up old beef.

    ive just bought one of these motors and am hoping im not about to get a dud, i was aware there was some risk, but i foolishly paid BEFORE i watched this video... but i feel i can console myself with the thought that this is ONE guys experience, and much of his problems can be avoided by thoroughly checking the motor before use - or so i hope?

    edit- opps forgot clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-nfS1-A4Ec
    here is a link to his blog where he has some beef with an aussie(what did he expect? haha)
    http://zbox-70cc.blogspot.com/
     
    Last edited: Sep 17, 2009

  2. suspect

    suspect Member

    Nevermind Then
     
  3. GearNut

    GearNut Active Member

    There are 3 different Chinese factories producing these engines.
    All the engines look darn near identical on the outside.
    The difference in quality of construction between the 3 factories is great.
     
  4. suspect

    suspect Member

    so im just flipping a coin?
     
  5. GearNut

    GearNut Active Member

    For the most part, yes.
    If you stick with the better respected vendors you will get a better product and support. They did not get their respect by screwing over customers or frequently selling junk in a box.
    No matter where you get your kit from, you will have to withstand some shoddy quality control on the part of the manufacturer.
    IE: Most all gas tanks have rust in them. Most all chains are low quality.
    Quite a few need carburetor adjustment before they will run right.
    Alot have the clutch frozen up, caused from sitting on a shelf for months on end. Some clutches need adjustment to operate properly. Some are assembles a bit wierd.
    All of the above issues are very easy to repair.

    Please consider that you are paying dirt cheap prices for a dirt cheap engine.
    Dirt usually needs work before it will shine.
    That is what attracts of alot of very happy MB owners.
    They like to tinker. These engines are perhaps the most basic, simple design you can possibly work on.
    Changing a lightbulb in some outdoor garden fixtures can be more difficult that rebuilding a clutch assembly in these engines.
    They are that simple.
     
  6. suspect

    suspect Member

    hey thanx mate, thats what i wanted to hear, i was just suffering a bit of buyers remorse as i am pretty broke and had to save to get that motor, spending all my available cash to get it(just borrowed a $20 for a bottle of cheap port to entertain me tonight)
    im not worried about working on the motor, and am keen to play with it and get it to work better, just seen a 1000watt Crystalyte hub motor(no battery)go for exactly double the cost of the zbox kit and i was starting to wonder if i shouldnt have saved a bit more... considering the likely life of this motor...

    but at the end of the day, by the time this thing craps out il probably have teh resource to get a pitbike motor and not look back.
     
  7. GearNut

    GearNut Active Member

    The HT style engines have been known for lasting 100 feet to 3000+ miles.
    You just never know.
    A reputable vendor will warranty any problems within the warranty time.
    That is usually long enough to determine wether or not the engine is a good one or a lemon.
    Expect 2000 miles or so out of a good one.
     
  8. suspect

    suspect Member

    oh im in NZ mate, we have the consumer guarantees act, that means if it breaks within.. well the loosely defined 'reasonable' period, then you get your money back, warranties are for people who dont know the law.
    basically, if the motor doesnt do what its meant to do, i can and will get my cash back.
     
  9. mean lean

    mean lean Member

    gday suspect, ive had a few zbox motors, warren has sold many and i think he has a handle on quality control. but quality control could fade at any time. that said you should get a decent run. make sure you check all bolts on a regular basis, lots of vibration on these motors.

    have fun rubber side down!
     
  10. suspect

    suspect Member

    chur, il look after it, if it breaks down and its my fault im not the sort to whinge about it.
    just been burnt by the internet before...
    guy who sold me a cruiser bike had damaged it badly and left me to find out the hard way.
     
  11. POPS

    POPS Member

    Suspect

    Do all the PRE, install stuff as said on this site...all screws, bolts etc.

    Lots the guys on the guys on this site have been doing this for a long

    time and KNOW there stuff...Read and learn from the wealth of info. as

    I have and do the PRE. stuff as the guy's are sharing there personal

    experance and wisdom...THANKS GUYS...POPS
     
    Last edited: Sep 19, 2009
  12. suspect

    suspect Member

    yes i will, ive been reading a lot of stuff and will follow recs to the letter, except theres a fair bit i just plain dont understand, some of the recs assume certain levels and pieces of knowledge i just dont have.
    my build will be on here soon, i wont bother asking til i can organise pix of my problems haha.
     
  13. POPS

    POPS Member

    If you can't find what you want do a search and you will find your answer or than ask and someone will help...POPS
     
  14. suspect

    suspect Member

    yeh, searching can be a bit hit and miss, things are seldom found under the topic you were looking in, cheers tho.