Clutch clutch adustments help please

Discussion in 'Transmission / Drivetrain' started by cyclemadness2929, Sep 23, 2011.

  1. cyclemadness2929

    cyclemadness2929 New Member

    hi i recently bough beach cruiser with 48cc canada motor from a pawn shop, big mistake. the engine started leaking and needless to say i should have just gotten a new kit and bike and assembled my self. so i bought a 80cc from motovelo and i would not recomend in the future. i installed engine and it runs fine as long as i am rolling and do not have clutch engaged. well if i engage my clutch it kills engine. how would i make it to wear once its on it stays on till engine stalls or kill switch
     

  2. 2strokepoke

    2strokepoke Member

    could be your idle on the carb.. it could be set for low rpms try turning the screw in?
     
  3. cloud_2901

    cloud_2901 Member

    My engine NEVER used to idle when I clutched it until I completely rebuilt it myself. . Was never a problem for 3000 kilometres +

    Do you really need it to run while clutched? You don't really want to slip the clutch on start off on these things, and killing it when coming to a halt will save wear on your clutch pads, then just pedal off and rollstart again.
     
  4. cyclemadness2929

    cyclemadness2929 New Member

    tried that and it does not do anything ether way
     
  5. cyclemadness2929

    cyclemadness2929 New Member

    yes i would like it to so i can warm it up before i take it on a ride. winter is coming and it already does not run well when cold
     
  6. Big Red

    Big Red Active Member

    Clutch?

    Sorry CM 2929, You seem to be getting advice from every NEWBIE on the site. When you pull IN your clutch handle, your engine should release from the rear wheel and you should "coast". If it is dragging to a stop it sounds to me like you need to adjust your clutch. But your not real clear. Can you push the bike freely, with engine OFF, when you pull IN the clutch lever?
    I've been building Motorized for five years and have about 50 builds behind me. I also run a small Motorized Bike business. So please get back to me and we'll get this worked out for you. Clutch and carb adjustments are the easy stuff.
    Big Red.
     
  7. Big Red

    Big Red Active Member

    Starting off.

    Yes cloud, You really want the clutch to slip some starting off from a stop. It makes for an easier and much more pleasant ride. When releasing the clutch to start the engine you want it to grab and not slip at all. But pedeling to start the engine with the clutch already engaged is just silly. The pads are meant to wear, That's why they sell new ones. I weigh 230lbs and my pads last at least a year or more. And, at about $10.00 it's not a lot to spend once a year. I would assume that if you only weigh 150-180lbs your pads would last even longer. Starting a bike with no clutch after EVERY stop sign is also gonna be a real pain. So lets try to give the guy good advice and get the bike working properly.
     
  8. Big Red

    Big Red Active Member

    Starting off.

    Yes cloud, You really want the clutch to slip some starting off from a stop. It makes for an easier and much more pleasant ride. When releasing the clutch to start the engine you want it to grab and not slip at all. But pedeling to start the engine with the clutch already engaged is just silly. The pads are meant to wear, That's why they sell new ones. I weigh 230lbs and my pads last at least a year or more. And, at about $10.00 it's not a lot to spend once a year. I would assume that if you only weigh 150-180lbs your pads would last even longer. Starting a bike with no clutch after EVERY stop sign is also gonna be a real pain. So lets try to give the guy good advice and get the bike working properly.
    Big Red.
    I don't know why this posted twice. Only pushed POST REPLY once.
     
    Last edited: Sep 25, 2011
  9. Big Red

    Big Red Active Member

    Idle

    How far in did you turn it? I've had to turn some almost ALL the way in before it contacted the slide. So try ALL the way in, see what happens. you can always screw it back out.
     
  10. cyclemadness2929

    cyclemadness2929 New Member

    clutch help

    yes as soon as i pull the clutch the engine dies and i can coast. i am trying to set it up so that i can still coast and the engine stays on would anyone have anyideas how all the vids on line show the bike standing still and still running
     
  11. motorpsycho

    motorpsycho Active Member

    really?
    I ride my bikes like motorcycles with no pedaling at all...been doing it that way for 3 years now with no problems or clutch adjustments needed.
    you gotta love the advice of a newb, especially when that advice is wrong.
     
  12. geebt48cc

    geebt48cc Member

    True, I never have had any problems with clutch, and I weigh 255.....................I've just adjusted a few times. Going over 2/yrs now+
     
  13. Big Red

    Big Red Active Member

    Idle

    Yeah CM 2929, I think I got it now. For some reason the bike wont idle at a stop. If it will still rev up and you can keep it running with the clutch in, we just need to figure out the idle. FIRST, make very sure the intake to the engine and to the carb is sealed on both ends. You can check for leaks by drizzling water over the connections. While keeping it reved so it don't die, drizzle a little water over them. if there's an air leak it should almost kill the engine. I still don't know if you REALLY tried the idle screw all the way in. The BRASS SCREW with the small spring on the side of your carb is the idle screw. Turn it ALL the way in. That should take the idle TOO high. If you only tried a turn or two it might have not been enough. Also make sure you fuel/oil mix is right. I just use 8oz per gallon of gas on a broke in engine. I'm no math teacher so I don't even TRY to figure out what the heck 50:1 is. I've never seized an engine myself so I guess I'm close enough. On a new engine I throw in an extra oil cap full in the tank to make sure. But too oil rich and the bike will have a hard time running. So the mix has to be close.
    Anyway, check this stuff out and get back to me. We'll get it idling one way or another.
    Big Red.
     
  14. Big Red

    Big Red Active Member

    Newbie's

    Yeah Moto, A guy with barely enough posts to be a "Member" and got lucky with one build, his first, is giving advice. He really needs to listen and learn before he does any more of that. I've been doing this a while and I'm still learning a thing or two.
    Big Red.
     
  15. cyclemadness2929

    cyclemadness2929 New Member

    fixed it

    i finially figured it out. i did not have the carb pin adjusted to the right notch. so the motor did not get enough gas. i had the pin set to low so i readjusted pin and thing runs like a top, better power and it stays running when clutch is engaged.:D thanks big red for the other advise it was precise and sound even though i found fix on my own
     
    Last edited: Sep 26, 2011
  16. Big Red

    Big Red Active Member

    It Idles, YEA!!!

    I knew it would be something simple if it ran good otherwise. Did you move the pin yourself or come from the factory that way? Information about factory settings could be helpfull to all of us. Good detective work on your part. I can tell you're going to be an asset to the site.
    Big Red.
    P.S. Now that the frustrating part is over, send us a pic. of your baby.
     
    Last edited: Sep 27, 2011
  17. Tyler6357

    Tyler6357 Member

    Still running good?

    You said you got your bike kit from Motovelo. Can you tell me what kind of engine you got? Is it 2 stroke or 4? Are you still happy you purchased it? Is it still running ok? I'm thinking of getting one of their engines and I want to know if they are better than the cheap China engines.
    Thank you
     
  18. motorpsycho

    motorpsycho Active Member

    they are all (the 2 strokes anyway) cheap china engines no matter who you buy it from.
    Unless you specifically buy one made in japan....but a good japan one will cost you more money than a cheap china one.
     
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