FL Law Update 04/20/2011 Gas Powered Bicycle Reg. N O T Required

Advice on nomenclature...

Refer to them as "MOTOR ASSISTED BICYCLES", never say, "MOTORIZED BICYCLE" or "MOPED"....If we stick together, they will eventually either pass a specific law or leave us alone....



A big thank you to all you guys for doing due diligence concerning Florida law.

About a month ago I called the DMV to find out what I needed to do to get a tag for a motorized bicycle (this was before I knew moped was the word to use). She had me call the DMV Compliance office & the lady there told me, "As long as it has pedals it doesn't need to be tagged." To me, it's still up to the cop that might stop me & how he interprets whatever he thinks the law is & I don't want to take that chance or have that hassle.
 
Kinda bad that they just didn't prosecute and you, through a trial or in front of judge plead the case and win.
A dismissal is one thing, not prosecuting is another (nolle proseui) and a win in court is a different animal too.

As long as a jury trial has not been commenced, the entry of a nolle prosequi is not an adjudication on the merits of the prosecution, and the legal protection against double jeopardy will not automatically bar the charges from being brought again in some fashion.

In other words, they can charge you again.
Doesn't really help you, if another cop gives you the same tickets. :(
 
Kinda bad that they just didn't prosecute and you, through a trial or in front of judge plead the case and win.
A dismissal is one thing, not prosecuting is another (nolle proseui) and a win in court is a different animal too.

As long as a jury trial has not been commenced, the entry of a nolle prosequi is not an adjudication on the merits of the prosecution, and the legal protection against double jeopardy will not automatically bar the charges from being brought again in some fashion.

In other words, they can charge you again.
Doesn't really help you, if another cop gives you the same tickets. :(

I consider it a win because it is an official admission that there are no laws on the books they can prosecute with..This will likely change in the future...If they do try to re-charge me, I will certainly force it to a jury trial...I doubt a jury will convict me at a future date....The thing is that we must fight them at all instances...The police no longer hassle me at all anywhere in Brevard County....
 
I consider it a win because it is an official admission that there are no laws on the books they can prosecute with..This will likely change in the future...If they do try to re-charge me, I will certainly force it to a jury trial...I doubt a jury will convict me at a future date....The thing is that we must fight them at all instances...The police no longer hassle me at all anywhere in Brevard County....

That's pretty awesome to be able to not have to worry about the cop(s) that originally ticketed you!!
I've been looking into getting copies of the records, but the only way I could find to even start looking was through the county website, but they need a CC to charge for it.. Unfortunately I don't have one, so I'm outta luck for now.
 
further proof

this is from dot pdf note this line on the end: Operators of motorized bicycles do not need a valid driver's license and are not
required to register them in order to operate them on public roadways.

www.flhsmv.gov/hsmvdocs/96intro.pdf

316.003 ‐ Definitions for Scooters, Segways, Mopeds, and Electric Bicycles:
(2) BICYCLE.--Every vehicle propelled solely by human power, and every motorized
bicycle propelled by a combination of human power and an electric helper motor capable of
propelling the vehicle at a speed of not more than 20 miles per hour on level ground upon
which any person may ride, having two tandem wheels, and including any device generally
recognized as a bicycle though equipped with two front or two rear wheels. The term does
not include such a vehicle with a seat height of no more than 25 inches from the ground
when the seat is adjusted to its highest position or a scooter or similar device. No person
under the age of 16 may operate or ride upon a motorized bicycle.
(77) MOPED.--Any vehicle with pedals to permit propulsion by human power, having a
seat or saddle for the use of the rider and designed to travel on not more than three
wheels; with a motor rated not in excess of 2 brake horsepower and not capable of
propelling the vehicle at a speed greater than 30 miles per hour on level ground; and with
a power-drive system that functions directly or automatically without clutching or shifting
gears by the operator after the drive system is engaged. If an internal combustion engine is
used, the displacement may not exceed 50 cubic centimeters. (No helmet is required for
mopeds if operator is 16 years of age or older 316.211(3)(a))
(82) MOTORIZED SCOOTER.--Any vehicle not having a seat or saddle for the use of the
rider, designed to travel on not more than three wheels, and not capable of propelling the
vehicle at a speed greater than 30 miles per hour on level ground.
According to Florida law, motorized scooters, go-peds, and pocket bikes are considered motor vehicles. However,
because motorized scooters, go-peds, and pocket bikes are not manufactured to meet the required federal Motor
Vehicle Safety Act, they cannot be registered for operation on public roadways, even if the operator has a valid
driver's license. Mopeds can be registered for operation on public roadways, but an operator must have a valid
driver's license to operate one. Operators of motorized bicycles do not need a valid driver's license and are not
required to register them in order to operate them on public roadways.
Regulations for electric personal assistive mobility devices (Segways)
(Section 316.003(83) and 316.2068, F.S.)
An electric personal assistive personal mobility device is any self-balancing, two-nontandem-wheeled
device, designed to transport only one person, with an electric propulsion system with average power of
750 watts (1 horsepower), the maximum speed of which, on a paved level surface when powered solely
by such a propulsion system while being ridden by an operator who weighs 170 pounds, is less than 20
miles per hour.
An electric personal assistive mobility device may be operated on a marked bicycle path, on any street
or road where bicycles are permitted, and on a sidewalk, if the person operating the device yields the
right-of-way to pedestrians and give an audible signal before overtaking and passing a pedestrian.
A county or municipality may prohibit the operation of electric personal assistive mobility devices on
any road, street or bicycle path under its jurisdiction if the governing body of the county or municipality
determines that such a prohibition is necessary in the interest of safety.
The Department of Transportation may prohibit the operation of electric personal assistive mobility
devices on any road under its jurisdiction if it determines that such operation is necessary in the interest
of safety.
Comment: At this time, the only electric personal assistive mobility device is the Segway� Human Transporter. Since bicycles are
permitted on almost all streets, so are EPAMDs, except on those where operation has been prohibited by managing jurisdictions.
Guidance for use of bicycle lanes is provided above.
 
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this is from dot pdf note this line on the end: Operators of motorized bicycles do not need a valid driver's license and are not
required to register them in order to operate them on public roadways.

www.flhsmv.gov/hsmvdocs/96intro.pdf

316.003 ‐ Definitions for Scooters, Segways, Mopeds, and Electric Bicycles:
(2) BICYCLE.--Every vehicle propelled solely by human power, and every motorized
bicycle propelled by a combination of human power and an electric helper motor capable of
propelling the vehicle at a speed of not more than 20 miles per hour on level ground upon
which any person may ride, having two tandem wheels, and including any device generally
recognized as a bicycle though equipped with two front or two rear wheels. The term does
not include such a vehicle with a seat height of no more than 25 inches from the ground
when the seat is adjusted to its highest position or a scooter or similar device. No person
under the age of 16 may operate or ride upon a motorized bicycle.
(77) MOPED.--Any vehicle with pedals to permit propulsion by human power, having a
seat or saddle for the use of the rider and designed to travel on not more than three
wheels; with a motor rated not in excess of 2 brake horsepower and not capable of
propelling the vehicle at a speed greater than 30 miles per hour on level ground; and with
a power-drive system that functions directly or automatically without clutching or shifting
gears by the operator after the drive system is engaged. If an internal combustion engine is
used, the displacement may not exceed 50 cubic centimeters. (No helmet is required for
mopeds if operator is 16 years of age or older 316.211(3)(a))
(82) MOTORIZED SCOOTER.--Any vehicle not having a seat or saddle for the use of the
rider, designed to travel on not more than three wheels, and not capable of propelling the
vehicle at a speed greater than 30 miles per hour on level ground.
According to Florida law, motorized scooters, go-peds, and pocket bikes are considered motor vehicles. However,
because motorized scooters, go-peds, and pocket bikes are not manufactured to meet the required federal Motor
Vehicle Safety Act, they cannot be registered for operation on public roadways, even if the operator has a valid
driver's license. Mopeds can be registered for operation on public roadways, but an operator must have a valid
driver's license to operate one. Operators of motorized bicycles do not need a valid driver's license and are not
required to register them in order to operate them on public roadways.
Regulations for electric personal assistive mobility devices (Segways)
(Section 316.003(83) and 316.2068, F.S.)
An electric personal assistive personal mobility device is any self-balancing, two-nontandem-wheeled
device, designed to transport only one person, with an electric propulsion system with average power of
750 watts (1 horsepower), the maximum speed of which, on a paved level surface when powered solely
by such a propulsion system while being ridden by an operator who weighs 170 pounds, is less than 20
miles per hour.
An electric personal assistive mobility device may be operated on a marked bicycle path, on any street
or road where bicycles are permitted, and on a sidewalk, if the person operating the device yields the
right-of-way to pedestrians and give an audible signal before overtaking and passing a pedestrian.
A county or municipality may prohibit the operation of electric personal assistive mobility devices on
any road, street or bicycle path under its jurisdiction if the governing body of the county or municipality
determines that such a prohibition is necessary in the interest of safety.
The Department of Transportation may prohibit the operation of electric personal assistive mobility
devices on any road under its jurisdiction if it determines that such operation is necessary in the interest
of safety.
Comment: At this time, the only electric personal assistive mobility device is the Segway� Human Transporter. Since bicycles are
permitted on almost all streets, so are EPAMDs, except on those where operation has been prohibited by managing jurisdictions.
Guidance for use of bicycle lanes is provided above.

Hi,

Your link is from 1996? What is the relevance? Error?

IMHO, 316.003 should be updated, and your point is taken: re reg NOT required.

By the flow of words in 316.003, it infers or implies ELECTRIC Motorized bicycles, NOT Gas. The 04/20/2011 DMV procedures doc specifies GAS MBs.

Ride That Thing!

:)
 
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this is from fhp websight..
http://www.flhsmv.gov/fhp/html/fhpfaqsa.html


Attorney Generals Office Legal Opinion 2002-47

Are motorized scooters subject to the equipment and safe driving requirements of a motor vehicle or the provisions relating to mopeds or "electric personal assistive mobility devices" prescribed in Chapter 316, Florida Statutes?

In sum:

As of July 1, 2002, motorized scooters are excluded from the definition of "motor vehicle" for purposes of Chapter 316, Florida Statutes, and therefore are not subject to the equipment and safe driving requirements of a motor vehicle contained in that chapter, nor are the provisions relating to mopeds or "electric personal assistive mobility devices" prescribed in C hapter 316, Florida Statutes, applicable to motorized scooters.

In Attorney General Opinion 93-45, this office concluded that a motorized scooter powered by a gasoline engine with a maximum speed of 20 miles per hour may be characterized as a "motor vehicle" pursuant to section 316.003(21), Florida Statutes 1993, and that the drivers and operators of these scooters were subject to the provisions of Chapter 316, Florida Statutes, governing vehicles and vehicular traffic. At that time, section 316.003(21) defined "motor vehicle" as "[a]ny self-propelled vehicle not operated upon rails or guideway, but not including any bicycle or moped."[1]

You have advised this office that the Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles has stated that motorized scooters, are subject to the regulations regarding equipment and safe driving requirements of a motor vehicle as mandated by Chapter 316, Florida Statutes. [2] In addition, the department, relying on the opinion of the Second District Court of Appeal in State v. Riley,[3] has concluded that a motorized scooter driver is required to have a driver's license.[4]

During the 2002 legislative session, however, the Legislature amended the definition of "motor vehicle," effective July 1, 2002. Section 67 of Chapter 02-20, Laws of Florida, amends section 316.003(21) to define "motor vehicle" as "[a]ny self-propelled vehicle not operated upon rails or guideway, but not including any bicycle, motorized scooter, electric personal assistive mobility device, or moped."

Section 67 of Chapter 02-20, supra, also adds subsections (82) and (83) to section 316.003, Florida Statutes, which respectively define "motorized scooter" and "electric personal assistive mobility device":

"(82) MOTORIZED SCOOTER. - Any vehicle not having a seat or saddle for the use of the rider, designed to travel on not more than three wheels, and not capable of propelling the vehicle at a speed greater than 30 miles per hour on level ground.

(83) ELECTRIC PERSONAL ASSISTIVE MOBILITY DEVICE. - Any self-balancing, two-nontandum-wheeled device, designed to transport only one person, with an electric propulsion system with average power of 750 watts (1 horsepower), the maximum speed of which, on a paved level surface when powered solely by such a propulsion system while being ridden by an operator who weighs 170 pounds, is less than 20 miles per hour. Electric personal assistive mobility devices are not vehicles as defined in this section."

Section 68 of Chapter 02-20, Laws of Florida, creates section 316.2068, Florida Statutes, which provides:

"316.2068 Electric personal assistive mobility devices; regulations.--
(1) An electric personal assistive mobility device, as defined in s. 316.003, may be operated:
(a) On a road or street where the posted speed limit is 25 miles per hour or less.
(b) On a marked bicycle path.
(c) On any street or road where bicycles are permitted.
(d) At an intersection, to cross a road or street even if the road or street has a posted speed limit of
more than 25 miles per hour.
(e) On a sidewalk, if the person operating the device yields the right-of-way to pedestrians and gives an audible signal before overtaking and passing a pedestrian.
(2) A valid driver's license is not a prerequisite to operating an electric personal assistive mobility device.
(3) Electric personal assistive mobility devices need not be registered and insured in accordance with
s. 320.02.
(4) A person who is under the age of 16 years may not operate, ride, or otherwise be propelled on an electric personal assistive mobility device unless the person wears a bicycle helmet that is properly fitted, that is fastened securely upon his or her head by a strap, and that meets the standards of the American National Standards Institute (ANSI Z Bicycle Helmet Standards), the standards of the Snell Memorial Foundation (1984 Standard for Protective Headgear for Use in Bicycling), or any other nationally recognized standards for bicycle helmets which are adopted by the department.
(5) A county or municipality may prohibit the operation of electric personal assistive mobility devices on any road, street, or bicycle path under its jurisdiction if the governing body of the county or municipality determines that such a prohibition is necessary in the interest of safety.
(6) The Department of Transportation may prohibit the operation of electric personal assistive mobility devices on any road under its jurisdiction if it determines that such a prohibition is necessary in the interest of safety."
Thus, effective July 1, 2002, motorized scooters as defined by section 316.003(82), Florida Statutes, as amended, are expressly excluded from the definition of "motor vehicles" for purposes of Chapter 316, Florida Statutes. Accordingly, the provisions of that chapter that prescribe various equipment and safe driving requirements of motor vehicles are no longer applicable to "motorized scooters."

Moreover, the provisions relating to the operation of mopeds would not be applicable to "motorized scooters" since such scooters, which have no seat or saddle for a rider's use, do not fall within the definition of "mopeds" contained in section 316.003(77), Florida Statutes. Thus, such provisions as sections 316.208 and 316.2085, Florida Statutes, which set forth the responsibilities of persons operating a motorcycle or moped, or section 316.211, Florida Statutes, which prescribes the equipment for motorcycle and moped riders, are inapplicable to motorized scooters.[5] Similarly, the requirement of section 316.2068, Florida Statutes, as created by section 68, Chapter 02-20, Laws of Florida, imposing certain regulations on electric personal assistive mobility devices, apply only to such devices as defined in section 316.003(83), Florida Statutes, as amended. I would note, however, that the definition of "motor vehicle" contained in section 322.01(26), Florida Statutes, for purposes of that chapter relating to driver's licenses, has not been amended and still defines "motor vehicle" as "any self-propelled vehicle, including a motor vehicle combination, not operated upon rails or guideway, excluding vehicles moved solely by human power, motorized wheelchairs, and motorized bicycles as defined in s. 316.003."[6]

In light of the above, the Legislature may wish to readdress these issues and clarify its intent regarding the operation of motorized scooters in this state.

Accordingly, I am of the opinion that as of July 1, 2002, motorized scooters are excluded from the definition of "motor vehicle" for purposes of Chapter 316, Florida Statutes, and therefore are not subject to the equipment and safe driving requirements of a motor vehicle contained in that chapter, nor are the provisions relating to mopeds or "electric personal assistive mobility devices" prescribed in Chapter 316, Florida Statutes, applicable to motorized scooters.

Sincerely,

Robert A. Butterworth
Attorney General
 
Still don't get what q999 is trying to say..
He's just cutting and pasting things at random.
 
Still don't get what q999 is trying to say..
He's just cutting and pasting things at random.

Those sections he quotes don't exist when I search current docs.
(Section 316.003(83) and 316.2068, F.S.)
 
short reply to: sangesf

The state legislator has not updated laws concerning motorized bikes or scooters and that they are legal and considered bicycles by the state so: so unless your county or municipality passes laws against motorized bicycles they are legal.
Operators of motorized bicycles do not need a valid driver's license and are not
required to register them in order to operate them on public roadways.

Now what struck me funny was the definition of a moped AS (less than 50 cc) needing a license and registration , and the only electric assisted mobility device is the segway ?

There was something in there about getting a handy-capped plate for an assisted mobility device,
that is what my bike is, so I was wondering if I should apply for a handy-capped plate ? We'll see...

If you have a tag?
have you committed fraud in attesting that it is safe and can pass dot requirements for a motor verticals?
Are they registered as mopeds? If its over 50 cc its not a moped, the waters of (rules and regs) are a muddy mess.
It looks like the last time the legislators looked at the issue, they were lobbied by segway to cap electric bikes and allow segways to be classified as assisted mobility devices.

The lack of clear guidelines will not stop the harassment one may get.
So I think a good attitude and a little knowledge may be your best protection,

I am visually challenged and can not pass an eye test, but I manage to ride my Assisted mobility device. IE. Motorized bike.
 
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