Get a load of this!

Discussion in 'General Questions' started by RumblingV8, May 6, 2015.

  1. RumblingV8

    RumblingV8 Member

    This clown plasters his crap all over the craigslists in this area, even up into NY and NJ.

    Inexpensive alternative my foot. "$999" for something anybody with half a brain could build for less than $500.

    Anybody know anything about this guy? Anything similar in other states?
    These prices are a giant scam! Built on cheap huffys and random old bikes that he probably picks up on CL for cheap anyway...

  2. Ibkukin

    Ibkukin New Member

    Yeah, sounds like a bunch of BS to me too. Is there any validity to his claim that there are different grades of motors? I thought they were all pretty much the same.
  3. butre

    butre Well-Known Member

    unless he's going through and working the internals, there's no difference other than the junk that slips through quality control and the occasional factory freak that has you doing 40 mph with bolt ons

    I had one of those factory freaks once, I miss that motor. I ruined it by buzzing around at 10,000 RPM with 215 PSI compression, but it lasted 800 miles with that abuse. if I had the original top end bearing it would have been the first to go but I was running a brass bushing, it ended up being the ring locator pin working itself out that killed the motor. I haven't seen a truer crank or a rounder cylinder since. I've still got the crank too, just haven't found the right project to put it in.
  4. RumblingV8

    RumblingV8 Member

    What's great are his claims of 120cc engines but there are no pictures of anything but HT engines anywhere in all of his posts (there's more than just these three I shared). He has closeups of the engines, looks like the same stuff anybody else has.
  5. battery

    battery Member

    He claims 90cc in the first post. Does the motor have a hole in it? Lol says don't buy commie Chinese motors. Sure looks like one to me
  6. Fabian

    Fabian Well-Known Member

    I would suspect that "not one" of the current crop of bicycle engines is made anywhere outside of China, and they are all competing to be the lowest quality supplier.
  7. darwin

    darwin Well-Known Member

    If the dude can get real money for his builds more power to him. He's either a great salesman or the stars are aligned in his favor. False claims should never be encouraged or accepted.
  8. KCvale

    KCvale Motorized Bicycle Vendor

    Just some of the BS...

    "This bike has my famous powerhouse of a 120cc power plant 1 year warranty street legal all 50 states. No drivers license or registration needed"

    "The CHINESE dropped production of a lot of their under powered engines and the Japs are picking up the slack now with an even more potent form of engine with an integral magneto/CDI twice the size of the Chinese version of this new generation engine tech coming out."

    "I basically take a stock CHINESE MING design engine. Which mine are made in JAPAN not CHINA those engines are garbage and every single version of these engines are made with all kinds of EPA restrictions internally.
    I tear these better quality Jap engines down take the ******** out of the guts of the engine and port time the engine."

    " I use the famous more expensive premium quality SD Engine not currently available from any other vendor in the United States. I personally and I mean personally import my engines."

    "I have answers and alternatives is the good news. The bad news is all of it costs you money... The other better news is I have come up with a way to make these bikes run better live forever and ride on."

    "Working inside the small engine with all the parts inside is no easy thing to do. Especially the enlargement of the porting and cutting of the piston. That's not so easy. You first need to realize you can cut a stock design piston but it will not last inside the bore hole of these engines due to the high temp and being air cooled.
    That's when you buy one of these machines buy it from a pro shop not off the internet hustlers..."

    All I see in his pics are HY 2-strokes with NT carbs and regular CDI.
  9. bluegoatwoods

    bluegoatwoods Well-Known Member

    I'll grant that I'm put off by the wild claims. That's salesman-speak and it's not honorable.

    But I've got no qualms with his price. If he can get somewhere near $1000 bucks, then he's entitled to it.

    But I think the buyer is a fool.
  10. KCvale

    KCvale Motorized Bicycle Vendor

    Specs are supposed to be factual numbers, period.
    It still irks me when people call a 66 an 80cc, but some people shop by the biggest number and there is where the fraud comes in.

    But I've got no qualms with his price.
    If he can get somewhere near $1000 bucks, then he's entitled to it.

    Well, $1K is a meaningless bike sale price, I make bikes triple that price.
    The Gross that matters is deducting Parts cost first.
    What's left is the Net for labor.

    I have now qualms with Neting $200-$400+ for a real quality high dollar build, but this guys trying to net $500 slapping on a kit with BS.

    Well, there is a fool born every minute but hey, I don't know this guy, maybe he fixes all the things wrong for free for a year.
    All I know is I started to be in for the long haul, I expect this guy will move on to his next scam when the returns start so ya, buyer beware.
  11. darwin

    darwin Well-Known Member

    KC Kymco calls there like 200 scooter which only has 163ccs and their a global company. Just one example, it happens a lot.
  12. bluegoatwoods

    bluegoatwoods Well-Known Member

    "I have now qualms with Neting $200-$400+ for a real quality high dollar build, but this guys trying to net $500 slapping on a kit with BS." --KCVale.

    My economic views are such that I've been called a Socialist. I'm not quite there, but I can see how some conservatives might think so. I've been called a Communist. (That's definitely exaggeration. But I'm pretty left-leaning.)

    Yet I still don't have any problem with someone naming whatever price they want for a given item. And if they can find a buyer, then I say "Congratulations".

    Now this guy is taking some pretty ordinary stuff and asking a premium price, it's true. But that doesn't offend me.

    If he'd just knock off the reckless claims, such as "legal in all 50 states", then I'd have no problem with him at all.