LAWS - CA Laws - Registration & Licence !!!

Discussion in 'Laws, Legislation & Emissions' started by dr_clabo, Aug 22, 2007.

  1. dr_clabo

    dr_clabo Guest

    I was under the assumption, from my reads here, that thus far no license or registration was necessary.

    I tried to sell my first bike and was informed that was not true:

    From page 6 of the 2007 DMV Handbook -
    please note difference in sec. (a) & sec. (b)
    (b) is for electric bikes

    A motor-driven cycle is:
    - A motorcycle with a 149 cc or
    less engine size.
    NOTE: You may not operate a
    motor-driven cycle on a freeway if
    signs are posted to prohibit motordriven
    cycle operation.
    There are two definitions of
    motorized bicycle (moped). A
    motorized bicycle is:
    - A two- or three-wheeled device,
    capable of no more than 30 mph
    on level ground, and equipped
    - fully operative pedals for
    human propulsion.
    - an internal combustion
    engine producing less than
    two gross brake horsepower
    and an automatic
    - an electric motor, with or
    without pedals for human
    (VC Sec.406[a])
    - A vehicle with pedals and an
    electric motor (not more than
    1,000 watts) which cannot be
    driven at speeds of more than
    20 mph on level ground even
    if assisted by human power.
    The motor must stop when
    the brakes are applied or the
    starter switch is released. (VC

    If you operate a motorized bicycle
    which meets the defi nition of

    VC Sec.406, you:
    - Must be 16 years of age or
    - Must wear a properly fi tted and
    fastened bicycle helmet.
    - Are exempt from the motor
    vehicle fi nancial responsibility,
    driver license, and moped plate
    requirements. (VC Sec.12804.9)
    You may ride a moped in a bicycle
    lane at a reasonable speed. Be
    careful of bicyclists using the
    A motorized scooter is defi ned as
    any two-wheeled "device" with:
    - A motor, handlebars, and a
    floorboard for standing on when
    riding, and
    - The options of having:
    - a driver seat which cannot
    interfere with the operator's
    ability to stand and ride.
    - the ability to be powered by
    human propulsion.
    The motorized scooter's exhaust
    system must not be modifi ed or


    Also, there is a Motorized Bicycle Application (Reg. 230) from the DMV. I think that it is $18, perhaps.



    An M2 or M1 license is required.
    Motorized Bicycle Application Reg230 $18 as of April 19, 2007.
    Liability Insurance
    Motorcycle Helmet
    Brake light
    Side and rear reflectors
    "Adequate" muffler (whatever that means)
    Working brakes
    One mirror(prob. left side)
    Note - Turn signals are not required under the law.


    All Valid comments welcome.

    Please no "he said - she said" opinions.
    Real legal precedents please.

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  2. gone_fishin

    gone_fishin Guest

    i moved this into..."motoredbiking LAWS & legislation"...
  3. npk1977

    npk1977 Guest

  4. dr_clabo

    dr_clabo Guest

    What about selling & transfer?
  5. thatsdax

    thatsdax Guest

    anything on ?

    Anything on Motor Assisted Bicycles? Just curious.
  6. locoWelder

    locoWelder Guest

    Frist you are selling a bicycle so you dont go thought DMV the motor is NOT in questin its an after thought or an add on it started life as a bike frist all that is needed for Cali is a resalers licence this is fact so dont try to turn it into a shoting match, just understand that you were misinfourmed by someone that has not had to fight it in court.....Loco
  7. Cops in CA

    If you're not out there acting like an idiot, the police will leave you alone. The laws are so confusing that most cops don't keep up with the changes in motorized bicycle laws. They have much more important things to do.

    Keep it below 30 mph on busy streets.

    Wear a freakin helmet.

    Get a 17 dollar moped plate.

    You won't have a problem......... I asked a Pacific Beach motorcycle cop about this (they are notorious for ticketing kids) --He pointed to Zena and said It's just a BICYCLE!
  8. DougC

    DougC Guest

    The thing you need to detirmine here is if the state's definition of a "motorized bicycle" covers a bicycle that you put a motor on yourself, or if it only covers bicycles that were originally manufactured and sold with motors attached.

    That seems like a minor distinction, but it's not.

    Years ago many motorized bicycles were built and sold that were street-legal, and state motor vehicle laws tend to include methods for grandfathering every type of motor vehicle that was legal in the past--but it doesn't mean the state includes bicycles you put motors on now.
  9. Danny3xd

    Danny3xd Member

    I spent 3 hours at DMV, talked to 5 folks and got no st8 answer on "Motor assisted bicycles" here in CT. I looked it up in the statutes (14-286) and found the answers. Completely street legal and to sell one, I need a dealer's licence if I produce or sell multiple units. Go to your states DMV web page, do your home work. Case and point, NY state right next door all but forbids "motor assisted bicycles" but you can add lights and more CC's and is a legal moped that you can register. Really is a case of doing one's home work.
  10. gone_fishin

    gone_fishin Guest

    anyone posting here is doing their homework.

    speaking of "how forums work" to start a new topic to discuss CT law...this is a CA topic...

    moshe-pit-discussions only make matters more vague for a new rider trying to get info about their specific state.
  11. Danny3xd

    Danny3xd Member

    Dr Claybo, forgive me if that came out less then well intentioned. I meant it only as advice that I think sound. Perhaps I should have phrased it as "going straight to the horse's mouth." If I came across as less then supportive, I apologize.
    augidog, I thought it pertentent to this thread in that even well intentioned folks might not have up to date information and dictates from any DMV. My intent isnot to anger any one...
  12. gone_fishin

    gone_fishin Guest

    hey, no anger, it's my job to keep things on track, i used to "drop hints" but i've learned direct works mucho-better.

    ...i actually do think you should start a CT topic, i looked and we don't have one going yet.
  13. gone_fishin

    gone_fishin Guest

    '3xd, what i meant to say to you was if you wanna share your info about CT laws with us, you can feel free to start a new topic.

    i'm pretty swamped at the moment and i've become a bit more curt than usual in how i handle things. i didn't mean to be quite so pushy, even by my standards. i'll keep an eye on that, maybe drop a couple projects and slow down :)
  14. Dr.Clabo, What did you give them for a valid Vin and Engine number ?
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