wheel size question

Discussion in 'General Questions' started by bomble37, Apr 27, 2011.

  1. bomble37

    bomble37 Member

    Ok so I am going to be building a cruiser with a chopper kinda feel, ape hangers and banana seat etc... heres the question:
    I will be running a 26" on the rear and 22" on the front with a drum brake, and this will have a springer front end. So the obvious question is to know if the 22" wheel is safe for this, or is it better/ safer to run another 26? or maybe a 24"?
    Thanks
     

  2. DuctTapedGoat

    DuctTapedGoat Member

    I wouldn't reduce the size - when you see chopped bicycles, the frame is drastically altered to be able to accommodate the smaller front wheel. Usually on a chopped bicycle, the gooseneck is angled way back and you have longer forks.

    If you were to do this with your existing stuff, I wouldn't go smaller than 24 if your forks are 26.

    Suggestion : Get longer forks for in the front, 29" springers.
     
  3. retromike3

    retromike3 Member

    wheel size ect.

    As far as I know they don't make a 22 inch wheel. They make a 20 inch wheel and I would not recommend changing it. 20 inch wheels have a smaller diameter and so they have to spin more in order to go the same distance as a 26 inch wheel. This creates more loss due to the deformation of the tire on the road. and the actual increase of wear by fiction of the moving parts.(the same reason large skateboard wheels go faster than small ones)

    Even if you could get away with installing the wheel on the fork it would change the geometry of the frame and probably cause you to hit your pedals on the ground. So unless you can find a custom fork with the same length added to the bike as the smaller wheel would remove I would not recommend it.

    Something else I have noted on this blog, much like the fabled 22 inch wheel I have yet to see a gooseneck on a bicycle. I think they have always been referred to as stems. I think the only place you might see a gooseneck is in the wild or at a butcher shop.

    mike
     
  4. motorpsycho

    motorpsycho Active Member

    I wouldn't do it just because it would look stupid in my humble opinion.
    I have a west coat choppers bike (20") and i put a 24" front wheel on it while keeping the stock 20" rear wheel.
    the bike looked out of proportion with a 20" wheel on the front and the back, because of the long forks and raked frame.
    the 24" front wheel helped make the bike not look stubby (for lack of better words).
    if you look at real choppers you will find that a lot of them run 18" rear wheels, and 21" front wheels...which helps establish the correct look with the raked frame and long forks.
    think of putting a 13" space saver spare on a monster truck....it just won't look right.
     
    Last edited: Apr 28, 2011
  5. bomble37

    bomble37 Member

    Ok, first off the "fabled" 22 inch rim does exist, I have 4. Also, I know how to read a tire size. They were very few made, one bike that had them was a schwinn enduro made in the 80's and some french bikes. Also, i have about ten 22" tires....I have changed out the crank to a shorter one so the pedals arent so low either and the rake isn't too bad, i'll post pics in a few days.
    ok now that that is settled, thanks all I wanted to know is if it was a good idea to make a schwinn krate style motorized bike, and I can see it's a resounding no. Which is good because now I can get another bike for the collection
     
  6. DuctTapedGoat

    DuctTapedGoat Member

    Gooseneck is what your forks go into. Stem is what comes off the headset and holds the bars.
     
  7. motorpsycho

    motorpsycho Active Member

    what do you mean "a resounding no"?
    if you are trying to make a 26" Krate looking bike, it will look goofy because the proportions would be way out of whack.
    you could go with a 24" frame, 24" rear wheel and a 20" front wheel on a schwinn fastback or manta ray frame, with a springer front end.
    original krates had 20" rears and 16" fronts...4 inch differeence in diameter which would be the same as going with a 24"/ 20" combo on the smaller 24" frame.
    or if you just go to a 20" crate style bike, it'll look awesome. granted mine isn't a krate, and it doesn't have a 16" front wheel...but you get the idea. mine is more lowrider than Krate.

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  8. bomble37

    bomble37 Member

    ok so why is a 4 inch 22"frt/26"rear difference a bad idea on a 26" bike, if it's ok for a 24" bike to have 20frt/24rear?
    isnt it the same thing? only on a bigger bike?
     
  9. bomble37

    bomble37 Member

    heres a bad mock up pic
     

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  10. motorpsycho

    motorpsycho Active Member

    I never said that a 26" / 22" was a bad idea, i just said that it would look funny in my opinion. Krates have a certain look to them and i think the only way to accomplish that look, is to go with a 24" frame, 24" rear, 20" front wheel, or to go with a 20" frame, 20" rear, 16" front.
    I just think that a 26" rear with a 22" front would look way out of proportion.
    besides that, to get the right look you would need the right tires (a rear slick) and i have never seen a 26" slick.
     
  11. motorpsycho

    motorpsycho Active Member

    now that looks pretty cool in my opinion!!!
    if i were you, i'd go with it.
    it doesn't look "Krate" tho, it looks more beach cruiser to me because of the frame/ wheel size.
    but, it looks cool as it is!
     
  12. bomble37

    bomble37 Member

    Thank you! I realize now that with a pic it makes more sense in other people's eyes. That pic is of it before the springer i got for it... so ill have a pic of that tomorrow. hopefully.
     
  13. Lazieboy

    Lazieboy Member

    Semicircular bond

    Half circular thing. Where does this little thing go. I searched no results. Thanks:confused:
     
  14. bomble37

    bomble37 Member

    what engine kit is on your lil bike there? is it 49cc?
     
  15. bomble37

    bomble37 Member

    what half circular thing?
     
  16. DuctTapedGoat

    DuctTapedGoat Member

    It looks good when the frame and forks are designed to have two separate wheel sizes.
     
  17. davidstipek

    davidstipek Member

    Yes we also have bikes here in Thailand and Japan that used 22". Getting a little hard to find replacements because they really never got very popular was the issue
     
  18. davidstipek

    davidstipek Member

    I actually used 17"x 3.5" Motorcycle tire/rim/spokes with bicycle hub. System actually translated to almost the same OS diameter as a 24" bike tire/rim. and 26"x 2" bike tire rim on front.

    I will attach a pictures showing with both sizes. File 1097 is showing a 24" front and rear (actually 17" rear) look at front fork top of shock relation to tire. Now file 1548 has a 26" rim/tire see how it fills out fork.

    This Bike is using a Honda MC full suspension front fork and rake of fork is 70 degrees quite radical! Frame is originally a 26" and extra space in front of rear tire was used to mount 2T oil tank for 2cycle engine as it has auto oiler... Throttle actually controls carb and oiler at same time.

    if you want more accurate (quicker turning) this is why with extend forks they go smaller tire. to keep tread surface and turning edge as close to same position.

    If turning no concern then go bigger for looks, but remember when you park watch which way you turn handlebars or bike could want to tip over (if you turn bars to right) too much rake in fork will also contribute to this issue.

    Now most Chopper bikes that used 4.25" x 20" rear tire almost unaminusly used 24" front. this was a 24" frame!

    Same as when you went to 24" x 4" (yes, you can now find) rear they had on front a 26" tire/rim and this was a 26" frame!

    Answer everyones questions??

    David
     

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    Last edited: Apr 29, 2011
  19. davidstipek

    davidstipek Member

    do you have multiple speed rear freewheel?? If so it could be to secure rear derailuer to fork... Make sense??

    David
     
  20. bomble37

    bomble37 Member

    Updated pics

    here's more
     

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