Man same here i started drilling them out and putting a thread insert not heli coil, these are a hardend steel ,black with a red thread bond .they only come in std thread. so 1/4" allens is what i use !!you have to be very careful drilling for inserts &tapping,. but i have never had that prob again. ive vibrated my the dam whole bike apart!!, pulled off one time and one of the pedal cranks fell off ! steel thread serts they are great!