Does this sound ok?

Discussion in 'General Questions' started by brendonv, May 18, 2008.

  1. brendonv

    brendonv Member

    Hey i got a mountain bike and a 30cc 2 stroke engine from a wipper snipper ( weed wacker ). Im thinking of mounting the engine in the frame under the seat area like most people do then welding or fitting a small sprocket on the shaft of the motor then running a chain from one of the wheel sprocket to the engine sprocket. This way i can also change gears with the bike too as it has gears on the back so it works out well. Then ill take off the front brakes and use the lever and hook up the throttle cable to it. Then ill just have back brakes.

    Does this all sound good? With the weed wacker engine it doesnt have separate Fuel and oil containers u mix it together then put it in. Does this mean u can tip the motor on its side or upside down and it wont affect it?


    I think im the youngest here, 14 yrs old!!!

    From Brendon.v

  2. eljefino

    eljefino Member

    if only it were that simple. :(

    you need some serious gear reduction to get the weedeater's powerband spinning your tire at ~25 mph. The weedeater output is in the many thousands of revolutions per minute; a bike crank is around 80 RPM.

    Some chainsaw carb/fuel tank setups are set up for use at various angles. I had a weedwhacker with a "heavy pill" attached to the end of the fuel intake inside the tank, the pill would sink on whatever side of the tank and always be sucking fuel.

    Incidentally I wouldn't jettison a complete working brake system just to rob the lever-- rather grab one from a junk bike at the dump or mail order a twist throttle grip, they're $20 or so.
    Last edited: May 18, 2008
  3. BSA

    BSA Guest

    A good way to go about this would be a tire roller drive, which means that you can skip a gearbox and a chain or belt drive. It would mean that you would have to mount the engine over the back wheel, attatch a roller to the engine shaft. The roller would directly rub against the tire and propel the bike. Do a search on tire rollers.

  4. loquin

    loquin Active Member

    Right. You'll need a rough surfaced roller, approximately 1.25 inch in diameter, to transfer power to the tire. The tire is just an 'idler' in this case, transferring the power from the roller to the road.

    Take a look at the friction-drive kit pics and mounting instructions at for ideas as well.
  5. brendonv

    brendonv Member

    would a bike grind peg work ok? It is about 2 1/2 cm in diameter but has a lot of grip on it.
  6. brendonv

    brendonv Member

    the friction drive ( been researching ) seems to hard to mount, its a lot easier to do the chain method. I got 5 gears on the back so i can change it to the biggest gear then put a small gear in the shaft of the motor. Ill take the whipper snipper apart now and see what the engine looks like. Ill take of the pole bit so i just got the motor and the shaft. ATM i still got it all in one peice so i need to take the engine out of it n stuff.
    Last edited: May 19, 2008
  7. brendonv

    brendonv Member

    well i got told not to take it apart, we will fire it all up make sure it all works properly as its been sitting in the shed for years. My dad says if it works we could also sell it for 150 then buy a better motor for it with the money.
  8. HoughMade

    HoughMade Guest

    I'm all for building from scratch- but this calls for a little math- as noted above, you need reduction of 18 or 20 to 1- your bicycle gears are not nearly large enough for that reduction. You will need some sort of primary gear reduction.

    this is why people are proposing a friction drive. With a 1.25" roller and a 26" wheel, you end up with almost a 21 to 1 reduction without any gears.

    If you really want to use a chain, let's say you have an 11 tooth engine sprocket- you need a 198 tooth sprocket to get 18 to 1 without a primary gear reduction of some sort.....that would probably be bigger than the back wheel of the bike. It can be done- just takes some planning. A primary reduction of about 4 to 1 would allow you to use a standard 50 or 56 tooth rear sprocket and get where you need to be. Good luck!
    Last edited by a moderator: May 19, 2008
  9. JemmaUK

    JemmaUK Guest


    firstly a two stroke shouldnt have any problem running inverted but you need to know the rotation direction at the output shaft. Setting everything up and then realising that you can do 25-30mph in reverse is not a good thing.

    you will need to fit a freewheel part to the crank which will allow you to run the engine without being de-shinned by a pair of pedals doing a fair approximation of local light-speed - trust me, that will hurt like all ****.

    I agree with others regarding brakes - DO NOT cripple the bike and possibly yourself and others just for a cheap part. Get hold of a twin brake lever and run that for both brakes (back brake to the top lever for graduated braking) - using the freed up single lever for throttle control.

    If you can get a 10-tooth sprocket fitted to the engine and have the chain run from that via a freewheel crank to the 5-ratio drive at the back you should have reasonable total ratio on the bike.

    alternatively there is a jackshaft kit available that will allow you to use an engine that rotates the wrong way - it will allow you a drive through to the geared wheel from one side of the bike to the other.

    By the way - when you have done all that be sure that you keep an eye on the mechanical elements of the machine - throwing a bolt or a fixing is often enough to destroy more than you'd ever expect...

    hope that helped

    Jemma xx
  10. brendonv

    brendonv Member

    yeh ive gone with the friction drive, ill probably chuck a bike peg on the motor but if it wont fit my dads friend has a machine that cuts out metal objects like screws and things so i could get him to make me a roller. Then ill just make up a mount and make it so i can adjust height so i can ride my bike without the motor on as well.
  11. brendonv

    brendonv Member

    My bike peg is 1 1/8 inches in diameter or 2.8cm. Is this big enough or should i get something that is like 1 1/4 or 1 1/2 inches in diameter?
    Last edited: May 20, 2008
  12. brendonv

    brendonv Member

    Well i took the covering off the motor so i got the motor with a shaft sticking out of it. Its a circle shaft with a square hole ( alen key sorta thing ) through it so ill get a thing made up by my dads friend that goes from a square to a thread so i can screw on the bike peg, it has 4 screw holes around the shaft which use to hold on the covering so ill mount a metal plate on it for mounting. This is the pic of my mounting. You can see on the left i have little slots, that way i can put the thread into those slots then tighten it up with a nut on top so i can change the position of the motor.

    I started ( well tried ) to start the motor all up, it started then ran for 5 secs then turned off, me and my dad are like "what the **** is happening "? so we have a look, the fuel line had cracked so my dads like here's your problem, he touched it and it all cracked into little pieces. Its really old all the fuel lines had hardened up and cracked so my dads getting new fuel lines tomorrow. Me had a look at it with the fuel line off and the little bit from the fuel tank to the fuel line was all clogged up so only the fuel that we pumped into the tube got through thus running for 5 secs.

    Ill get the mounts set up tomorrow, i got an extra brake lever so ill use that as a throttle, i got a long brake/ throttle cable, so its all coming together. Once ive mounted everything and ive gone for a few runs ill paint all the bike up so it looks really nice. My roller is a bike peg, its really really grippy, its 2.8cm in diameter ( 1 1/8 inches ). Should this work well, if it doesnt ill get a bigger one made up later on, 1 1/2 or 1 3/4 inches in diameter.

    Thanks for all your help so far guys, ill get some pics up soon.

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    Last edited: May 20, 2008
  13. brendonv

    brendonv Member

    well i got new fuel lines today, a new fuel tank and a new primer bulb as the original did the same as the fuel lines ( cracked ). I found out that the primer actually wasnt hooked up properly it went from the fuel tank to the primer, out the primer to the motor. Its suppose to go back into the tank after going into the engine or something so i got a new fuel tank with 2 holes in it. I got it all in, tried to start it, got it started twice went well ( so fast and loud!! ) but i think the spark plug is fudged so ill get a new spark plug then ill make the mount, fit the roller and im done.
  14. brendonv

    brendonv Member

    ive decided to make my design a little easier and cheaper so instead im going to make my mount wood and pretty much the same as this guys

    but im going to make it so i can adjust the height, so a metal U bracket on the bike then join that to the wood so it can move up and down, cut a circle in one side and mount the motor, Drill holes all up the sides at the back then have 2 metal bars going up from the back where the wheel gets mounted and then they hav a bolt on them, then i put the bolts through one of the holes then tighten with a nut. It will be very strong and i have all the stuff there, 10mm to 20mm thick wood and all the metal bars. All i have to worry about it mounting the roller but that should be easy.