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I once asked my dad what it meant in a classified ad that said "basket case." Since we were looking at motorcycles, he said its when a whole or parts of a whole bike had been disassembled but never reassembled. The parts are then gathered into a basket and handed to the buyer "as is." I don't know if this quite fits that definition, but this project reminds me of that idea of having to work through everything. I did complete my first 2 stroke build which turned out pretty well with a few visits here. Also had my share of kinks to work out over about 5 gal of use when I worked out a swap with someone who'd aquired a partially assembled 4 stroke schwinn cruiser.
Here is the current status of the build that I hope to finish. I see some things are the same as the 2 stroke, but the 4 seems like a different animal and any assistance would be much appreciated.
You can see it's an older model single speed Schwinn Delmar. I'm told the previous owner started the project maybe 5 or 6 yrs ago but got frustrated and gave up, so it could be newer or older. Apparently some of the steps were done in the wrong order, although he did get it onto the mounting plate and into the frame. But it appears crooked especially when looking at the drive sprocket alignment compared to the rag joint sprocket which appears was installed adequately.
It did come with a box of remaining items such as the gas tank, throttle, cables, hoses, chain and even came with a 2 stroke carb and muffler. I have many questions, but to start, does anyone know what version of engines and mounts were used around that time? Or even better, does anyone recognize what i have? Have the mounts been updated or changed? It is a Huashang and the belt cover says Ghost Racer, but i dont know if it's 49 or 53cc. I hope it's the non restricted version, but how do I tell without a lot of disassembling?
There was play in the rear hub, but I made some adjustments and i think it's fixed, but i wasn't there when the sprocket was installed. I don't know if correct adjustments created other problems with the coaster brake or arm. Regardless, it seems like the adjustments need to be just right for a coaster brake to work properly. That makes me skeptical to use it if riding 30 yards throws the adjustments off. I'm not opposed to removing the coaster brake function if need be and adding a hand brake.
The next issue is the belt drive (the belt was broke when I got it). Can anyone tell me if it's a 4g or 7g? What are the differences? I got a new belt which is a 15mm HTD 575-5M. I'm thinking the first belt broke because the pulleys are slightly out of alignment. The larger one sticks out a little farther and would cause the edge of the belt to rub the outer edge of the smaller pulley. I don't know if this is normal, because it is only very slightly off. Theoretically the belt would fit, but would in my mind cause the edge of the belt to rub the guide edge of the smaller pulley. Something else i noticed is it's missing two bottom bolts below the smaller pulley. I'd love to see how one is correctly mounted and hopefully duplicate.
Sorry for the long winded explanation. But i figured more background would help get better answers.
Some remaining questions I have are..
How do you identify if it's a 142f or 144f?
What tranny is this? 4g? 7g?
Is this what needs to be switched to the Grubee g4 I read somewhere here about because the stock wears out quickly? Or is it just the clutch some were talking about?
Was this belt drive assembled wrong for the belt pulleys to not line up?
Are there axle tugs to fit my (mostly) horizontal dropouts that have the open end toward the front instead of the rear like bmx bikes have?
Are there jackshaft kits available for these Huashang 4 strokes? I've searched, but only found 2 strokes have the readily available kits.
Thumbs up if you've read all this way. Thanks!
Here is the current status of the build that I hope to finish. I see some things are the same as the 2 stroke, but the 4 seems like a different animal and any assistance would be much appreciated.
You can see it's an older model single speed Schwinn Delmar. I'm told the previous owner started the project maybe 5 or 6 yrs ago but got frustrated and gave up, so it could be newer or older. Apparently some of the steps were done in the wrong order, although he did get it onto the mounting plate and into the frame. But it appears crooked especially when looking at the drive sprocket alignment compared to the rag joint sprocket which appears was installed adequately.
It did come with a box of remaining items such as the gas tank, throttle, cables, hoses, chain and even came with a 2 stroke carb and muffler. I have many questions, but to start, does anyone know what version of engines and mounts were used around that time? Or even better, does anyone recognize what i have? Have the mounts been updated or changed? It is a Huashang and the belt cover says Ghost Racer, but i dont know if it's 49 or 53cc. I hope it's the non restricted version, but how do I tell without a lot of disassembling?
There was play in the rear hub, but I made some adjustments and i think it's fixed, but i wasn't there when the sprocket was installed. I don't know if correct adjustments created other problems with the coaster brake or arm. Regardless, it seems like the adjustments need to be just right for a coaster brake to work properly. That makes me skeptical to use it if riding 30 yards throws the adjustments off. I'm not opposed to removing the coaster brake function if need be and adding a hand brake.
The next issue is the belt drive (the belt was broke when I got it). Can anyone tell me if it's a 4g or 7g? What are the differences? I got a new belt which is a 15mm HTD 575-5M. I'm thinking the first belt broke because the pulleys are slightly out of alignment. The larger one sticks out a little farther and would cause the edge of the belt to rub the outer edge of the smaller pulley. I don't know if this is normal, because it is only very slightly off. Theoretically the belt would fit, but would in my mind cause the edge of the belt to rub the guide edge of the smaller pulley. Something else i noticed is it's missing two bottom bolts below the smaller pulley. I'd love to see how one is correctly mounted and hopefully duplicate.
Sorry for the long winded explanation. But i figured more background would help get better answers.
Some remaining questions I have are..
How do you identify if it's a 142f or 144f?
What tranny is this? 4g? 7g?
Is this what needs to be switched to the Grubee g4 I read somewhere here about because the stock wears out quickly? Or is it just the clutch some were talking about?
Was this belt drive assembled wrong for the belt pulleys to not line up?
Are there axle tugs to fit my (mostly) horizontal dropouts that have the open end toward the front instead of the rear like bmx bikes have?
Are there jackshaft kits available for these Huashang 4 strokes? I've searched, but only found 2 strokes have the readily available kits.
Thumbs up if you've read all this way. Thanks!