that THING's a motorized bicycle or moped ?
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Mountainman
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we want no new laws regarding MB's
If we want to keep these things... our best bet is to refer to them as "motorized bicycles" and stay out of the whole legal mess associated with mopeds and motorcycles.
best to keep the movement going -- motorized bicycles
got a nice sound to it
separates us the farest from motor cycles
that's a good THING
If we want to keep these things... our best bet is to refer to them as "motorized bicycles" and stay out of the whole legal mess associated with mopeds and motorcycles.
best to keep the movement going -- motorized bicycles
got a nice sound to it
separates us the farest from motor cycles
that's a good THING
loquin
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I'll go along with the MM here.
A moped, in my mind, was designed from the ground up as a motor vehicle, with pedals added on, almost as an afterthought... a MOtorcycle with PEDals.
A motorized bicycle, on the other hand, IS a bicycle, with a small motor added, after the bicycle was designed and built.
Try peddling a moped around the block, without the motor...
THAT's not much fun.
That being said, the LEGAL definition varies, state-to-state, territory-to-territory, and country-to-country.
IMO, the emphasis on our rides should be on the word bicycle. If we continue to press the term "Motorized Bicycle," perhaps we can favorably influence lawmakers in those states with less friendly laws. Unfortunately, we can also influence the lawmakers negatively, if we develop a trend of pushing the bikes to speeds that they really shouldn't be going, and start having crashes at these speeds...
I live in Arizona, and would love to have the upper speed limit in our statue raised from 20 MPH to 25 or 30 MPH. I can legally ride in the bicycle lane, however, I get passed by the boys in spandex tights fairly often, when I keep to the 20 MPH limit. There's no real safety reason to have the arbitrary 20 MPH limit imposed on bicycle which happens to have a helper motor attached.
Regarding the upper speed limit of the folks who post here... Take a look at this poll. The poll was intended to get an idea of the membership's thoughts surrounding the maximum SAFE speed for motorized bicycles. At the time I post this, there have been 148 votes in this poll. 32 of the folks who voted (about one in five) don't think that there should be ANY speed limit for motorized bicycles. Of the remaining (nearly) 80% of the membership who voted, those who DO feel that there is a maximum safe speed to operate our bikes, the average safe upper speed vote is 31.3 MPH. And, 30 MPH is the max safe speed with the most votes.
A moped, in my mind, was designed from the ground up as a motor vehicle, with pedals added on, almost as an afterthought... a MOtorcycle with PEDals.
A motorized bicycle, on the other hand, IS a bicycle, with a small motor added, after the bicycle was designed and built.
Try peddling a moped around the block, without the motor...
THAT's not much fun. That being said, the LEGAL definition varies, state-to-state, territory-to-territory, and country-to-country.
IMO, the emphasis on our rides should be on the word bicycle. If we continue to press the term "Motorized Bicycle," perhaps we can favorably influence lawmakers in those states with less friendly laws. Unfortunately, we can also influence the lawmakers negatively, if we develop a trend of pushing the bikes to speeds that they really shouldn't be going, and start having crashes at these speeds...
I live in Arizona, and would love to have the upper speed limit in our statue raised from 20 MPH to 25 or 30 MPH. I can legally ride in the bicycle lane, however, I get passed by the boys in spandex tights fairly often, when I keep to the 20 MPH limit. There's no real safety reason to have the arbitrary 20 MPH limit imposed on bicycle which happens to have a helper motor attached.
Regarding the upper speed limit of the folks who post here... Take a look at this poll. The poll was intended to get an idea of the membership's thoughts surrounding the maximum SAFE speed for motorized bicycles. At the time I post this, there have been 148 votes in this poll. 32 of the folks who voted (about one in five) don't think that there should be ANY speed limit for motorized bicycles. Of the remaining (nearly) 80% of the membership who voted, those who DO feel that there is a maximum safe speed to operate our bikes, the average safe upper speed vote is 31.3 MPH. And, 30 MPH is the max safe speed with the most votes.
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moondog
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In Florida
In Florida the law says a motorized bicycle has an electric motor.
If it is a bicycle with a gas motor it is called a moped and you need a license and a tag.
That is the law. I have a tag for my 23cc gas powered bike.
They will give you one. Mine cost $48 for a year and a half.
They want their money and with things like they are lately I guess they need it.
After looking at the rules for Hawaii I can't complain.
If you tell them it is a motorized bicycle they will say you don't need a tag.
Most cops can tell the difference between an electric motor and a gas motor and in Polk county they are arresting people without tags.
Up to 6 months and $1000 fine.
In Florida the law says a motorized bicycle has an electric motor.
If it is a bicycle with a gas motor it is called a moped and you need a license and a tag.
That is the law. I have a tag for my 23cc gas powered bike.
They will give you one. Mine cost $48 for a year and a half.
They want their money and with things like they are lately I guess they need it.
After looking at the rules for Hawaii I can't complain.
If you tell them it is a motorized bicycle they will say you don't need a tag.
Most cops can tell the difference between an electric motor and a gas motor and in Polk county they are arresting people without tags.
Up to 6 months and $1000 fine.
Happy Valley
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Even though this thread probably long ago crossed over into
territory, here's what the state where I live defines the issue:
http://www.mass.gov/rmv/alerts/scooter.htm
territory, here's what the state where I live defines the issue:
http://www.mass.gov/rmv/alerts/scooter.htm
Mountainman
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horse ain't dead !!! we call it THING
horse ain't dead !!!
thinking that we need to keep beating
this subject should be cussed and discussed
and remember to call it by the proper term ----- voted ------ ((((THING))))
horse ain't dead !!!
thinking that we need to keep beating
this subject should be cussed and discussed
and remember to call it by the proper term ----- voted ------ ((((THING))))
Here's my state (Kentucky):
http://www.moped2.org/laws/Kentucky.htm
Moped Definition
"Moped" means either a motorized bicycle whose frame design may include one or more horizontal crossbars supporting a fuel tank so long as it also has pedals, or a motorized bicycle with a step-through type frame which may or may not have pedals rated no more than two brake horsepower, a cylinder capacity not exceeding fifty cubic centimeters, an automatic transmission not requiring clutching or shifting by the operator after the drive system is engaged, and capable of a maximum speed of not more than thirty miles per hour.
A 'moped' is defined as having: "No more than two (2) brake horsepower, a cylinder capacity not exceeding fifty (50) cubic centimeters, an automatic transmission not requiring clutching or shifting by the operator after the drive system is engaged, and capable of a maximum speed of not more than thirty (30) miles per hour." KRS 189.285. If not sure about the vehicle, contact the County Clerk's office to find out if the vehicle needs to be licensed.
http://www.moped2.org/laws/Kentucky.htm
Moped Definition
"Moped" means either a motorized bicycle whose frame design may include one or more horizontal crossbars supporting a fuel tank so long as it also has pedals, or a motorized bicycle with a step-through type frame which may or may not have pedals rated no more than two brake horsepower, a cylinder capacity not exceeding fifty cubic centimeters, an automatic transmission not requiring clutching or shifting by the operator after the drive system is engaged, and capable of a maximum speed of not more than thirty miles per hour.
A 'moped' is defined as having: "No more than two (2) brake horsepower, a cylinder capacity not exceeding fifty (50) cubic centimeters, an automatic transmission not requiring clutching or shifting by the operator after the drive system is engaged, and capable of a maximum speed of not more than thirty (30) miles per hour." KRS 189.285. If not sure about the vehicle, contact the County Clerk's office to find out if the vehicle needs to be licensed.
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