I got a bad idea...

Discussion in 'Performance Mods' started by Parah_Salin, Nov 2, 2009.

  1. Parah_Salin

    Parah_Salin Member

    Small compressed oxygen tank. Steal hosing, second carb. How would this compare to nitrous?

  2. MikeJ

    MikeJ Member

    Of all the hundreds of thousands of race car engines built and run, I have never seen a single reference to running straight oxygen (O2) into the intake. Probably because its oxidizing ability (ability to start fire without a spark or flame) in a mostly-uncontrollable way

    I would like to see what happens. I recommend trying feeding O2 into the intake of an engine you don't mind if it is destroyed. Get an O2 bottle from Home Depot, and a very long length of copper tubing, not steel. Start the sacrificial engine and then open the O2 bottle valve from behind a wall or someplace. Feed the O2 into the intake. Be sure to videotape the engine; I'd like to see what happens.

    Maybe someone on YouTube has already done this...
  3. Mike Hunt

    Mike Hunt Member

    what about putting a nitrous tank with a valve to restrict flow so its a very small trickle that doesn't destroy the engine and hooking it up to the throttle so it automatically gives it a trickle of nitrous between just above idle and about half throttle, for more torque on takeoffs?
  4. Parah_Salin

    Parah_Salin Member

    You could to that with either. You'd just need dual cables on the oxygen/nitous and the regular throttle. The issue is that I ran the math on pure oxygen, and a %50 power increase would last you 4 minutes on a small bottle.

    Still, if you use it only for passing, or for when you desperately need to get up to speed (boston traffic) you should be good.

    Personally I wish I could get my paintball tank filled with O2. Light as a feather, 45 cubic inches at 4500 PSI. I'm not sure if this the correct forumla, but if atmospheric pressure is about 15 PSI, then that would be 300 x 45 CI- or 13,500 CI of oxygen at normal pressure.

    A 66 CC engine is about 4 CI. So, that means that it is taking in 4 CI of air with every stroke. Air is 20% oxygen. Adding enough oxygen to make it 30% oxygen with an increase in fuel would add 50% more power.. So you'd want to add 0.4 CI of oxygen per stroke. Running at 5,000 RPM this means it would eat 2500 x 0.4 CI (ends up being 1000 CI) of oxygen per minute. This means that at 5000 RPM I would have 13 and a half minutes of %50 power. Now that would be sweet.

    The issue is...who the **** is stupid enough to fill my paintball tank with oxygen?

    Also, how much power does nitrous add per unit of volume injected? And how much is in one of those kits you can buy off Ebay?
  5. Turtle Tedd

    Turtle Tedd Member

    Pumping straight O2 with a little nitrious...heck why not just add a little actylene to the mix...you guys are going to blow your balls off
  6. bluegoatwoods

    bluegoatwoods Well-Known Member

    Turtle Tedd's comment would be enough to make me stop.

    ....but then, how about armor plated blue jeans?...........
  7. hah ha turtle ted made me LOL! I almost shot coffee out of my nose!
  8. give me vtec

    give me vtec Active Member

    wont work... you are just going to run a lean condition. My prediction is detonation.
  9. Turtle Tedd

    Turtle Tedd Member

    Detonation..as in.." Fire in the hole "
  10. Parah_Salin

    Parah_Salin Member

    No the idea is you have a carb dedicated to the O2 intake. So when you turn it on you are adding O2+a perfectly balanced to slightly rich fuel mixture.
  11. motorpsycho

    motorpsycho Active Member

    there is no way this will work...i wouldn't waste my time.
    If you are looking for a boost, just buy a nitrous set up and be done with it.
  12. give me vtec

    give me vtec Active Member

    agreed... it wont work.
  13. eastwoodo4

    eastwoodo4 Member

    to get the mixture lean enough to make a difference would make it to hot.it would melt the piston.
  14. WhizBangAndy

    WhizBangAndy Member

    hmm acetylene..how about some mapp gas instead? Might make a pretty fireball when it blows apart..lol Im thinking a 70cc 4 stroke mc engine is a safer route for the power you want. And they come with at least 4 speeds..
  15. Turtle Tedd

    Turtle Tedd Member

    Yes Mapp gas is easier to get in smaller bottles.....KABOOM
  16. WhizBangAndy

    WhizBangAndy Member

    Actually lets go like 30% Nitromethane. Im thinking a 1/4" piece of steel should shield you from the blast..LMAO:idea:
  17. Turtle Tedd

    Turtle Tedd Member

    Its gonna be a mess...no open casket
  18. WhizBangAndy

    WhizBangAndy Member

    OOHH I got an even worse Idea..HYDRAZINE and water..Of course you need a block of iridium to ignite the thing into the stratosphere. OK ill stop now..:jester:
  19. Turtle Tedd

    Turtle Tedd Member

    Young go fast dude.....get a motorcycle...sooner the better I think
  20. Turtle Tedd

    Turtle Tedd Member

    ..How about rocket motors..a lot safer