ok sorry but when i found this site i got so excited i think i forgot to introduce myself. that was back on may 21, 2008. i go by revelstone and i'm working on my first ever bike. gas is 3.85 a gallon. that's motive enough, even if my car gets 28 mpg. anyway i already have pictures up of my project. don't rush me i'm pacing myself. plus i have to get it right the first time. glad to be here.