When you say Q Clutch? which clutch is that? Pressed on Hardened sleeve modification
Just pry that seal up going in a circle it'll pop out in good condition
Are There Any NE-5 Auto Clutches Out There
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Just pry that seal up going in a circle it'll pop out in good condition
klinde
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Great! Thanks for the pics.
klinde
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that's the one. It would be great to get them going again. In October of 2013 we had a discussion about how to duplicate that clutch. I couldn't get at the time and I still can't. I do want to give it a try. Gettin closer every day.
I'm going to apply aircraft technology the my Q-clutch. Half the holding pressure and high temp adhesive for metal. It will be stronger due to the lack for stress by splitting the holding pressure in half.
I have two sets of 26" Worksman Wheels, one for each bike.
Both bike have minor mods, lapped valves, decked, and some intake work. Both bikes run. The black one starts first time every time. There are still issues to work out.
I like the way you secured your exhaust. I have been sourcing parts. Still have a few odds and ends to get. I have located pretty much everything.
Having a hardened center shaft is the main thing to your auto clutch lasting
I never liked how the Whizzer Auto Clutch was designed to spin and stay together
The floating retaining washer to hold it together wasn't working good at all for me, the centrifugal force, forces the clutch apart
The washer would eat into the face of the clutch , It was too sloppy, and the drum didn't cover the clutch shoes far enough.
So I mounted a face plate and modified my Auto clutch like this
Face plate
Bronze collar bushing and a regular bronze washer (bushing)
See how the face plate floats between the bronze washers.
There's another bronze washer between the face plate and the shaft bearing
Pic of collar bushing and reg bronze washer
Bronze washer on the shaft bearing
To make all this work I shaved the centershaft down too 35mm
and made sure the spacer in between the two 6901 bearings in the center shaft was the correct length
Taiwan made alot of those spacers short
Lightened the clutch shoes to get a higher RPM engagement and better springs -
See the metal I cut out by the springs to lighten the shoes, Fine tuning to get that engagement rpm I like just right
I also have the One Way bearing positioned so it rides farther down on the shaft, This is why I don't use a grease seal here
clutch drum covers the shoes fully
My high miles of 41K will tell ya this works good.
Clutch spin without friction, better alignment and the clutch drum covers the shoe pads
The top bronze washer takes all the wear and can be easily replaced, usually every 3K - 5k miles
BTW that's about how long a set of clutch shoe's lasts too. 3K -5K miles
I don't expect you to do this Because it takes alot of figuring and commitment because ya gott shave down the center shaft to 35mm for this design to work
But it might give you some Ideas.
Quenton Max Torque Clutch, Made in USA
Q had these made @ Max Torque Clutch, for New Generation Whizzer
See how they use a Thrust Bearing, My design for the Whizzer auto clutch is same but with bronze bushings,
A thrust bearing could be installed on a Whizzer clutch with some fabrication,
Max Torque uses sintered shoes and a garter spring
Garter spring, which can be bought in different strengths
Sintered shoes, which can be bought in different weights
Max Torque has a 3-5 mph slower top end speed and the rpms will be about 1K higher
Max Torque is a good hill climber and overall an excellent clutch - replacement parts can be bought thru Max Torque
I used it for a while but I like the Whizzer 90 mm auto clutch top speed and overall power band performance.
Check with Q maybe he had some more made
Hi, if you contact the seller you bought the motor from ebay, he should have something. Tell him what your looking for. Cause he's got lots of whizzer parts and stuff.
I'll post some pictures of mine, 3 different sizes, 90mm, 70mm, 50mm. Also different auto clutch arms. Mine are not for sale.
Better hurry before wench tries to contact him first.
Ray
klinde
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Thanks for the information. I'm not confident that I will be able to acquire even one clutch like the one's you've showed, not to mention a set of quality lifters. That's not a deal breaker. I'm confident that I can make this work. Questions still pop up.
I have a 90mm and a 70mm. The red bike was my first. I have had that bike up to 50mph cruises at 45mph, with minimal modifications using Joe's clutch. I never installed the lighter springs that were supplied with the clutch and they lock up well. They work good on each bike. They definitely work better than the stock clutches. Looking forward to looking inside Joe's clutch.
