Best commercial electric bike

Discussion in 'Electric Bicycles' started by dudley, Feb 10, 2009.

  1. dudley

    dudley New Member

    I was wondering if any one out there can tell me what they think is the best all around electric bike may be in the 1-3000$ range might be. By best all around I mean one that would offer me the best quality, range, speed, and mild hill with flat road capability. I live in the southern Atlanta area ( Stockbridge) with this type of terrain. Ideally I would like a no or little peddle range of 25 miles or so and of course lithium batteries. I would also like a beach cruiser type frame or comfortable mountain bike frame, disc brakes would be a plus as well as 26 inch wheels. While I have no experience with electric bikes I have many years of experience with larger electric remote control planes and helicopters and mine utilize larger capacity lithium batteries, dedicated speed controls, brushless motors, (mostly out runners) and specialized connections. The point is, I think I can, (for the most part) understand the concepts of of an electric bike using these type of components. Add into this equation my hieght-6-1, and weight 190.
    Is thier a reputable company in the US or south east that makes sustom built electric bikes that would 'fit the bill' ? I realize a custom build would command a higher price. Thanks alot for your help, Rhett Dudley

  2. bamabikeguy

    bamabikeguy Active Member

    From what I've been reading (and I'm an e-bike-dummy), the best performances ARE when you marry kit and bike yourself, rather than buy a complete unit.

    By punctureproofing the tires yourself, and selecting a bike style that really suits you, (basketry, brakes, saddle or seat etc.), that gives you a whole lot of confidence.

    You could also go into the build with expandability in the back of your mind. Buying the bike locally gives you a support system on small problems that may come up.

    The electric part of it all revolves around having enough space to carry enough batteries to carry you easily on your round trip estimate, including the terrain factor.

    I'm 3 hours west of you, in the same type hilly area, (Sand Mountains in Alabama), and a guy in Cullman is hitting a reliable 35 miles per charge, (leaving me in the dust at the start line), and he has $1,200 total in his kit, charging unit, batteries and battery carrybag system.
  3. dudley

    dudley New Member

    Thanks BamaBike GuyYes

    Yes, I had a feeling that a 'do it yourself' or a custom build would be suggested. not very long ago I contacted ,Spooky Tooth and inquired about thier new line of electrics and even though they carry some good ones and are willing to lightly modify their electric bikes, I was interested to know what else other people might know about where I could seek other choices. I am a retired pilot and my wife is with the DOD at FT. McPherson and we just just moved here from Germany after nearly 7 years there. My point is this, when we left Orlando 7 years ago for Germany I had been flying 'gas' RC for several decades. When I got to Germany I immediately jumprd into electrics and in that short 7 years went from 'brushed' motors to ,brushless,, from nickle metal hydride to lithium ion to lithium poly batterys, from very unsophisticated speed controls and chargers to ultra sophisticated. I swear I spent well over 20,000$ just keeping up with the technology over just those 7 years and if I am going to pay thousands for a top notch electric bike then I better get it from a company that knows thier stuff and can support it. I dont think that I have that type of "electric bike" knowledge yet. I am going to call around to some Atlanta area bike shops today to see if any of them are currently involved or know any one involved in electric bikes. Hey thanks for your reply! by the way, do you know that guy in Cullman!---Rhett
  4. cooltoy

    cooltoy Member

  5. MitchJi

    MitchJi New Member


    Better bang for buck picking a bike and purchasing a kit.

    Great people to buy from (if they have something you like). The Ezee kits are good. Even if you don't purchase from them there is a lot of good info on their site:

    You could use an RC Motor and Controller like this:

    or this:

    Best Wishes,

  6. Email

    Email Member

    Schwinn Electric Bikes

    Not sure if they're the best, but definitely one of the more sleek designs I've seen.


    The battery and electronics are stored in the front hub, the motor is in the rear hub.

    Cool idea, not sure how much it would cost altogether to do a in hub design but here's some of the numbers...
    30 - 8AH D's @ $5/ea = $150
    3 - 10 Batt NiMH @ $45/ea = $135

    So that part of a hub is $285... then you have to build your own hub, install electronics, and figure a good way to route the signal/power from the center hub to elsewhere.

    Of course spending $$$ like this you're better off buying a very lightweight frame and footing it... replacement battery packs for the E+ are $650.
    Last edited: Mar 2, 2009
  7. robin bird

    robin bird Member

    The idea is great---it is real boring driving one and more dangerous because there is no noise -people pull out in front of you
  8. cooltoy

    cooltoy Member

    I was watching a show on that fact last night. They say we will have down-loadable sounds that we will install in our cars. Anything from a VW with the sound of a Porsche to the guy in the car with train sounds, going down the road. The funniest one was the one with the sound of a Ship driving down Main Street with it's Fog horn.
    Interesting times ahead!
  9. ozzyu812

    ozzyu812 Member

  10. AussieJester

    AussieJester Member

    The Cyclone kits are a great bolt on non-hub kit, my e-biking buddy has the 1000watt version its very nice setup, they do have a 'questionable' freewheel crank though, have seen a few 'reports of them breaking' (this can be rectified by replacing it with higher quality freewheel like the ENO for example) If your handy type though the RC motor setups are great power and very light you will need the ESC and servo tester (for a throttle) downside you will need a reduction drive unit of some kind to reduce gearing to ~10:1 before it hits the crank...As mentioned above Recumpence makes nice drive units contact him via his website, he sells them from $US200 to bolt the motor of your choice in, he will 'mod' thee unit to suit the motor you buy... MitchJi you look familiar :p

    Best of luck

  11. buzbikebklyn1

    buzbikebklyn1 New Member

    big deal.... that happens every day let the rider beware.
  12. cyclone kits

    the cyclone kits are comming from Taiwan the country im in now
    1500-2000usd is to much I think

    This guys making a cool bike but honestly I hate range limitations
    And the heavyness factor

    Theres only 4 things electric that I can think of worth buying

    Nissan leaf 80+mph 100Miles on a charge
    Tesla roadster 0-60 in 3.8 140-150mph over 100 miles on a charge
    Inzio sports car same as Tesla but faster and goes further
    Brammo Sports Bike 100mph and 100miles on a charge

    out of all of them at 13000 the brammo bikes the only one
    I could possibly afford

    as for a 3k usd ebike I will be a buyer when It can go 100 miles
    or atleast alot more then just 20-30 miles
  13. lazaruslong

    lazaruslong Member

    isnt that hard to get a 100 mile range in an electric--can do easily for a lot less then 3k

    but just my thoughts that is not where electrics will find their biggest use--short trips around town replacing cars for many small errands would be their strong suits--or people like me who can actually use one with a 20 mile range as their primary transportation
  14. Agreed.

    If to and from one way there and back 20-30 miles is ok.
    A lot of people never think to drive 100 miles a day on a bike.
    But if you run multiple errands around town its surprising how fast you can rack up 50-100 miles.

    The chevy volt was designed that way also, to go 30 miles a day all electric
    without a recharge for the average commuter.

    But in the test group 80% of people triggered the on board gasoline generator
    meaning they surpassed the 30 mile mark.

    I cant really compare a car to a bike but if your doing more then to and from on a bike I still think gas is the way to go for now.
  15. buzbikebklyn1

    buzbikebklyn1 New Member

    After long study of whats available, I find a 1000 watt gear-less, brush less hub motor, a standard 35 amp controller(cruise control type) and a 48 volt 12 ah brick LiPo battery mounted in a light frame, like a mens 21 inch aluminum 700c wheeled commuter bike should get at least 60 miles on a charge if ridden conservatively with a reasonable load.
    Since I'm an UNREASONABLE load (270 lbs + gear) I would probably get less, approximately 35 to 50 miles per charge.
    Still enough for my daily 31.2 mile commute to and from work with a small safety factor built in.
    The problem for me is the price of the Lipo battery and the ridiculous cost of shipping-

    GoldenMotor lists just such a set up for around $1100.00 shipped, that's without the bike itself.
    A bit pricey for my tastes just to go green.
    For now? until the price of LiPos comes down? ill stick with my Morinis and China dolls.
  16. lazaruslong

    lazaruslong Member

    for a great electric bike that is well made--lots of options available--even more then listed on there website--great warranty--two years covers everything---and a pretty fair price--runs with lipo4s in the 1000 dollar range--i am the proud owner of two of their bikes

    if you decide to give them a call tell richard their salesman jeff and theresa from arkansas said hey

    they are a newer company who decided to build electric bikes with quality components for a reasonable price
  17. buzbikebklyn1

    buzbikebklyn1 New Member

    I a look at Prodecos line up and i have to say im impressed... there 500 watt 36 v 12 ah Phantom X looks like a good deal...BUT the bikes still not rated for heavy riders... at the very bottom of the spec sheet you will see its only got a 220lb weight limit...(about 60lbs short of my usual all up riding weight, yeah i know, im a Clydesdale...)
    But for a lighter rider? it looks like a great deal, I especially like there battery technology and warranty policy... id say go for one if your under 200lbs... folding bikes don't like fat guys.
    good deal...
    Last edited: May 23, 2011
  18. lazaruslong

    lazaruslong Member

    hey buzbike--may not be rated but i am on the smallest folder--live in an apartment and space is a big issue--i havent seen 220 in a long time--i am 6foot 2inch and around 240--the bike hauls me around just fine--i also installed a basket in front and haul a trailer with it all the time--if anything i would say these bikes are overbuilt and underrated ---just my thoughts
  19. buzbikebklyn1

    buzbikebklyn1 New Member

    Well lazarus, you might be right...I' used to the kind of acceleration afforded by a good well tuned 2 stroke, so im kinda spoiled...
    Due to local ordinance, My next ride will be an electric.
    I feel ya about the space limits of Apt. living.
    Its great to see you had a good experience on that folder, it looks very well made and it should last a long time.
    I'm looking for a bit more.
    Stay tuned...