augidog said:so let me get this straight...that lil strap is the only thing the gebe uses to brace against torque?
Not sure what 'strap' you're referring to. It's a little difficult to see in the pics, but there is a brace that is horizontally flat that attaches to the fender connection on the rear down tube. Make sense? And then there are the 'legs', one on each side, that attach to the rear drop outs.
As far as elitist stuff goes, I couldn't care less about such people. My bikes are all utilitarian, they serve MY purposes, I couldn't give a damn what other people think.
My road bicycle looks rough. But I can't count how many times I've put my legs into it and blasted past people dressed like they were in the Tour de France like they were standing still. Yeah... nice gear/equip, too bad it doesn't make you ride faster.....