Tajima e-MB, $23,000 for 70 kph....wth??

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THIS showed up in my google alert:

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http://green.autoblog.com/2010/01/2...-mini-sport-a-really-expensive-single-seat-e/

Tajima shows off EV Mini Sport, a really expensive single-seat electric vehicle

The price tag for the new EV Mini Sport single-seat electric vehicle from Tajima Motor Corp. reads ¥2,079,000 (that's about $23,024 U.S. at today's exchange rate). This isn't totally crazy for an electric vehicle, because we all know that advanced light and powerful batteries are pricey. Wait, what'd you say? That's the price without a battery? Ouch.

Unveiled as part of the 1st EV & HEV Drive System Technology Expo in Tokyo this week, the EV Mini Sport weighs just 660 pounds and can use either lead acid batteries (for $2,500 extra) or lithium polymer batteries (at an additional price of $4,300). Those packs will push the little racer around for 25 kilometers with the lead acids or all the way to 90 km (range rated at 40 kilometers an hour). The vehicle, technically a motorized bicycle, has a top speed of 70 kmh. Longer and two-seat versions are possible, should Tajima decide to export the EV Mini Sport outside of Japan. We admit it's pretty sweet, but $23k for a batteries-not-included toy? Wow. Check it out in the video after the break.

Help me out metric people, doesn't 70kph = 42 mph?

And it sound like the battery life is less than an hour, no matter how fast or slow you go.
 
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An Electric Boost for Bicyclists



By J. DAVID GOODMAN
Published NYTimes: January 31, 2010

SHANGHAI — Jiang Ruming, a marketing manager, owns a van, but for many errands, he hops on a futuristic-looking contraption that lets him weave rapidly through Shanghai’s messy traffic. He rides an electric bicycle.

Electric bicycle riders in China, where about 120 million such bikes are used, with some going up to 30 miles an hour.

Half a world away, in San Francisco, the president of that city’s board of supervisors, David Chiu, uses an electric bike to get to meetings without sweating through his suit.

And in the Netherlands, Jessy Wijzenbeek-Voet recently rode an electric bicycle on a long trip that, at 71, she would not have been able to make on a standard bike.

Then there is a picture, captioned "Roger Phillips, 78, uses an electric bicycle in Manhattan, although they are not officially permitted on New York streets."

continuing....

Detroit may be introducing electric car designs and China may be pushing forward with a big expansion of its highways and trains. But people like Mr. Jiang, Ms. Wijzenbeek-Voet and Mr. Chiu — as well as delivery workers in New York, postal employees in Germany and commuters from Canada to Japan — are among the millions taking part in a more accidental transportation upheaval.

It began in China, where an estimated 120 million electric bicycles now hum along the roads, up from a few thousand in the 1990s. They are replacing traditional bikes and motorcycles at a rapid clip and, in many cases, allowing people to put off the switch to cars.

In turn, the booming Chinese electric-bike industry is spurring worldwide interest and impressive sales in India, Europe and the United States. China is exporting many bikes, and Western manufacturers are also copying the Chinese trend to produce models of their own. From virtually nothing a decade ago, electric bikes have become an $11 billion global industry.

“It’s miraculous — it takes the hills out of riding,” said Roger Phillips, 78, who rides an electric bike around Manhattan. The sensation is akin to a moving walkway at the airport, he said.

Electric bikes have been a “gift from God” for bike makers, said Edward Benjamin, an independent industry consultant, not only because they cost more — typically $1,500 to $3,000 — but also because they include more components like batteries that need regular replacement.

In the Netherlands, a third of the money spent on bicycles last year went to electric-powered models. Industry experts predict similar growth elsewhere in Europe, especially in Germany, France and Italy, as rising interest in cycling coincides with an aging population. India had virtually no sales until two years ago, but its nascent market is fast expanding and could eclipse Europe’s in the next year.

“The growth has been tremendous in the last two years,” said Naveen Munjal, managing director of Hero Electric, a division of India’s largest bicycle and motorcycle maker. He expects sales at Hero to increase to 250,000 electric bikes in 2012, from 100,000 in 2009.

While the American market has been modest — about 200,000 bikes sold last year, by some estimates — interest is rising, said Jay Townley, a bicycle industry consultant. Best Buy began selling electric bicycles in June at 19 stores in San Francisco, Los Angeles and Portland, Ore. Trek, a manufacturer based in Wisconsin, recently began selling a bike created by Gary Fisher, a prominent bicycle designer.

“Electric-assisted bicycles will change how people think about bikes in urban areas,” predicted Mr. Chiu of San Francisco, who has been riding a prototype of the Trek bike since the summer.

Improvements in technology are resulting in lighter designs that appeal to older cyclists. “Now you’ve got a product you can present to a baby boomer,” Mr. Townley said.

New York City’s largest electric bike store, NYCeWheels, opened in 2001, and in the last few years, business has been growing, said Bert Cebular, the owner. In Chinatown, electric bikes are showing up on nearly every corner and several shops have recently appeared, selling bikes imported from Chinese factories.

As the global market develops, two types of electric bikes are emerging. One is similar to a standard bicycle with pedals, but it has an electric motor that engages on command or when the cyclist pedals. These are the most popular type in the United States and Europe, with many people using the electric motor mainly for help in wind or on steep hills.

Page 2 of this article on this link:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/01/business/global/01ebike.html?pagewanted=2&th&emc=th

My question is, has MB.com found the products to build competitive (but MB.superior) e-bikes, to install for urban public consumption?
 
thats hilarious

Unless its a pedal car, its not even close to a bicycle! hahahhah. It looks like a really neat go-cart, but for $20,000, I could buy 4 hondas that go 70mph, (a motorcycle, a dirt bike, and 2 cars!) .
 
The two wheeled electric vehicle will always have a potentially large advantage in power-to-weight ratio and performance-per-dollar over 4 wheeled electric vehicles.

The complete, turn-key e-bikes I commonly see have 200 or 300 watt motors. Why?
I'd rather buy the bolt on kits and have the highest wattage allowable to remain street legal (750 watts in TX).
 
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