Which setup floats your boat most?

Discussion in 'General Questions' started by grndslm, Feb 8, 2008.

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Which setup floats your boat most?

Poll closed Mar 9, 2008.
  1. 2-stroke, frame-mounted, chain-driven

  2. 2-stroke, frame-mounted, belt-driven

    0 vote(s)
  3. 2-stroke, rack-mounted, chain-driven

  4. 2-stroke, rack-mounted, belt-driven

  5. 4-stroke, frame-mounted, chain-driven

  6. 4-stroke, frame-mounted, belt-driven

  7. 4-stroke, rack-mounted, chain-driven

  8. 4-stroke, rack-mounted, belt-driven

    0 vote(s)
  1. grndslm

    grndslm Guest

    I'm hoping that most of you will vote based on your experience of multiple motored bike setups, but I realize that's prolly not possible for 85% of ya...

    So if you've only had one setup and like it, pick that. If you'd rather change one aspect (i.e. - rack-mounted to frame-mounted, or 2-stroke to 4-stroke) pick your ideal setup (the next one you plan to build within a few months) instead!!

    Also, don't forget to say WHY you chose what you did, and feel free to mention your current setup with likes/dislikes.

  2. HoughMade

    HoughMade Guest

    Here's the thing. It completely depends on what you want to do.

    Do you want to maintain near stock rideability of the bicycle and use the engine as an assist or every once in a while? A rack mount is probably the way to go and maybe a good 2 stroke due to weight issues.

    Do you want the above but with a quieter ride, likely greater speed (depending) ease of use and avoiding the need to mix? Rack mount 4 stroke, perhaps.

    Do you want a "mini-motorcycle" look, lower price and simplicity? 2 stroke frame, maybe.

    Want a vintage look? Whizzer.

    There's a lot more to go into it.

    I wanted a street legal "motorized bicycle" (under 50ccs), but with some power and I am emulating a very early motorcycle look. To me, that means a frame mount 4 stroke heavily worked over to look vintage.
  3. You left out trailer pusher which most floats my boat right now due to anything's possible with a setup like that.
    But my bike is the traditional happy time. I love how you can just pedal away and release that clutch and go.
    No ropes to pull.
    And even years from now when it gains in popularity because gas is 8 dollars a gallon,it's still the best selling configuration for it's the least expensive way to go.
    And it will always be fly.
    I really have no complains except I don't currently like the way they did the clutch cable. But I'm currently working on a new improved system that will make that clutch pull an effortless affair and be able to use a Walmart brake cable WITHOUT CUTTING THE WIRE end so you can guide it thru the hole.
    Stay tuned...it may take a little while but...stay tuned.
    That's probably the best part about this hobby. All the still undiscovered areas of improvement we have yet to discover.
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  4. loquin

    loquin Active Member

    Also, friction drive... I have a two stroke friction drive that works just fine.
  5. azbill

    azbill Active Member

    I have had a 2stroke frame mount for over a year now
    it is a good entry point into the world of motoredbiking (inexpensive)
    the main hold back is weakness of the engine (mostly bushing/wristpin failures)
    I like the ascetics of a frame mount as well as still being able to use the back for carrying things
    as soon as I can afford it, I would love to go 4stroke frame for the reliability factor
    but, the 2stoker has taught me much that I can still use if/when I move up the engine chain
  6. grndslm

    grndslm Guest

    Uhh... you're talking about a bicycle or a boat? Either one doesn't seem that great of an idea. A trailer pusher doesn't even sound that great when talking about a car either.

    Where do you buy happy time engines from? I've searched hours for a happy time website, but I cannot even find something as simple as that. What gives?
  7. HoughMade

    HoughMade Guest

    "happy time" is a generic term for 2 stroke, chinese made, fram mount engines- slang, not a brand.
  8. kerf

    kerf Guest


    Do you believe that asking peoples opinion, then criticizing it will help your response?
  9. grndslm

    grndslm Guest

    Wow... I would have sworn it was a brand from the way you guys use it.

    Are there other slang terms I should know about?
  10. dbigkahunna

    dbigkahunna Guest

    I think the pusher type may be up and coming technology. A good low emission 4 stroke engine with ability to change gearing plus low cost and you can remove the pusher and have a regular bicycle. THe long range application plus having a electric pusher that can carry a battery or a small engine with a generator. When you start thinking out side the box and see something like Stuart has done, it makes motor assisted bicycles a new frontier.
  11. grndslm

    grndslm Guest

    Wow.. can I get some cheese with that wine? Really, tho, some people are really touchy on this message board.

    From what I understand, on electric cars, trailer pushers get the same gas mileage as a regular gas powered car (i highly doubt those people included the cost of electricity and replacement batteries, however)... but you can take the extra weight off and go electric only for everyday city driving...

    I'm just failing to see how a trailer pusher is gonna help a bicycle out, however. They're supposed to be as light as possible, allowing minimum resistance.

    I'm failing to see the point, which is why I said "it doesn't seem like that great of an idea". If it is, let him respond with all the benefits. Again, I'm failing to see them over a simple motored bike.

    If there were pics, stats, and a cult following like here at motoredbikes, I'd be more willing to say that idea has benefits (...or not).
  12. grndslm

    grndslm Guest

    See, I was definitely not thinking outside the box. Everything I read about trailer pushers was in reference to electric cars, so of course I thought the bike must be electric too.

    I'm really just not too keen on electric vehicles in general due to the sorry state of batteries today. Maybe in 2010...

    But I could definitely see some benefit for some people to have a regular, pedal-only bike with a trailer pusher. That is definitely more practical to me than involving massive batteries that won't hold 50% of their charge in 2 years time.

    EDIT: Tho, isn't that the purpose of trailer pushers is to generate electricity to an electric vehicle or bike, even? That's what I understood which is why I don't particularly care for it, but until I see Stuart's work... I don't have much else to say.
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  13. srdavo

    srdavo Active Member

    I'm throwing you a bone......


    no reading involved....just click the video link above.

    there are several vids of this concept on this MBc.

    you should be a little more informed, before you talk "smack" to everybody.

    promise? :rolleyes:

    "Play nice"
  14. grndslm

    grndslm Guest

    Whoa! That's pretty wicked, alright.

    And I really wasn't "criticizing" Filipino by saying it doesn't seem like a great idea. I was merely setting him or someone else like this gentlemen here to tell me why it is a great idea. That design is worthy of a nobel peace prize or something.

    I personally woulda never that about that design because I am not as simple minded. That's amazing, tho!

    Heh... Time for a new poll??
  15. srdavo

    srdavo Active Member

    whatever......dude :p
  16. Alaskavan

    Alaskavan Guest

    Why is that?
  17. grndslm

    grndslm Guest

    ... why to which part?

    I was trying to get a poll with experience behind it, but I realize that's hard...

    And to the second part, of the 1,419 members & 628 active members... I just wouldn't expect more than 15 or 20% have built multiple motored bikes.

    RATRODER Guest

    How does someone that has built several bikes vote,you only get one vote? Im in the painting stage of my third frame mount chain drive,and planing a 2stroke frame belt drive.
  19. srdavo

    srdavo Active Member

    your point?

    what have you done??
    oh...you started a poll, today.

    try this..... shhhhhhhhhhhh
  20. grndslm

    grndslm Guest

    How does someone that has multiple candidates to choose from only get one vote?? That's a tough one.

    The question was which one do you like MOST?