I believe the rover is going for $499 and all terrain for $699 right now. No idea why, tho. Good prices, considering what frames set-up for m/b cost... They need some upgrades, like bearings etc. But at half-price, complete with engine and run-able as delivered that seems a decent deal.Excuse me SirLurksAlot. Do you or anyone else know why almost all the Phatmoto All Terrain and Rover models both are presently selling for about 500 dollars discounted off the normal selling price? Do you think Phatmoto might discontinue selling their line of gas bikes? Wow, I think the asking price on their website for a new 2023 Rover is 499 dollars. That’s an excellent deal.