What the heck ever happened to treating ppl like adults?
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A person is responsible (lible) for their actions, whatever they may be? If you do something dumb, you pay for it. You get drunk and drive and cause an accident, its YOUR fault, and NOT the bars/restaurants. It was YOU drinking and not the bar owner. KNOW YOU LIMITS AND KNOW YOUR ABILITIES, its YOUR responsibily, not someone elses. If you want me to be responsible for you, they fine, but you must do exactly as I say, any deviation absolves me of responsibility. Does that sound fair? I dont think so, so why let others dictate your existance.
Regardless of how you travel or what you travel with (car, truck, motorcycle, MB, bicycle, wheel chair, grocery cart, baby stroller, skateboard, wheeled luggage, etc...) most laws (Im in Canada but I believe its simmilar in the U.S.) have in most motor vehicle acts/statutes things that include in the use of a vehicle
1. due care
2. negligence
3. safe operation of
4. and sililar
So, if your driving a car and yapping on the cell, playing with the radio, shaving, applying make up, pickin yer nose, etc... and you cause an accident, it can be considered as neglegence causing harm/damage, unsafe operation of a vehicle, not applying due care, etc... Dont make it illegal to talk on a cell, smoke, drive one handed, etc.. Punish ONLY those who deserve punishment. Get the idiots off the roads and most problems will be solved.
Same goes if your riding your MB and you strike a pedestrian who had the right of way, or going faster than the conditions met, or operating a vehicle beyond your means, etc... its negligence, unsafe operation, etc...
Same goes if your on the sidewalk pushing a full heavy grocery cart and you hit an old lady knocking her to the ground and she breaks her hip and drops her expensive antique porecean collection of fuggly figurines, it can be considered as neglegence causing harm/damage, not applying due care, etc...
Stick to simple things and the law is simpler, more effective, everyone understand it, etc....
I've been motorly active for near 20 yrs, I have the ability to shift gears, eat a pizza, drink a coffee and smoke a cigarette all at the same time while maintaining safe operation of my vehicle in reverse at freeway speeds. I know some will say thats not safe, but Im just giving an example so relax ( but there are ppl with similar abilities). Meanwhile there are ppl out there who are afraid to pass a transport truck, can barely see over the dashboard, and cant chew gum and walk at the same time without knocking someone down.
make a simple law that punishes only those who actually commit an offence of damage or cause injury, rather than enfore laws or create laws because someone somewhere MIGHT do something bad, regardless what you operate.
If I can safely drive while juggling fireing bowling pins and balance a dozzen plates on my nose then so be it. If I drive the speed limit and am doing everything by the "book" and dont apply the brakes when someone stops infront of me and I rear end them because I panicked, then I should be charged. Not only charged but lose my lisence till I can prove I can safely operate a vehicle again.
I really dislike laws that punish intelligent, thoughtfull, considerate, good ppl just because theres a few morons out there that dont have basic common sense.
Dont make a law against a certain type vehicle, enfore laws on the person and their ACTIONS.
Dont outlaw a MB because someone somewhere MIGHT have an accident, because by that logic, every vehicle everywhere should be outlawed because someone might get hurt one day. We should all just stay at home and have machines feed us and whipe our butts.
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I can pedle along at 50Km/hr (30Mph) routinely and reach maximum speeds of 60Kms (38Mph) for 40 seconds at a time before lactic acid burns up my legs causing me to stop peddling that hard and I get winded.
Why then should a motorized bicycle be limited to 32Km's (20Mph) ??? I routinely pass scooters and mopeds.
If I can safely stop a moving vehicle given any circumstance, then what diff does it matter what that vehicle is (car, bike,rollerskates)?? If Im smart enough to guage a proper speed for the road Im on and for my vehicle and for my abilities, then I should be allowed to travel at that speed with no maximum speed imposed upon me. If the moronic operator cant determine a safe speed for their particular circumstances, then in my opinion, they should not have the right or privilage to be on the road. They are a danger to me, and themselves.
Limiting a MB to a certain max top speed is like saying that because really heavy transport trucks require far more stopping distance and can easily cause carnage, that they should only be allowed to travel at a maximum highway speed of 75Kms (45Mph) and 50Kms (30Mph) off highways. That makes it safer for everyone, right? Wrong, because now these slower moving vehicles are causing safety issues of their own as faster moving vehicles appraoch them, and they become moving road hazzards.
Same applies to limited speed vehicles. Therefore my rationality says to have no imposed max speed restriction on the road, however, the vehicle (regardless of what it is) should be capable of safely maintaining that speed and should be able to safely and controllably stop within pre determined specifications based on different speeds, so that it is the same or similar to cars + motorcycles (based on stopping distances relative to speed). If it cannot safely reach certain max speeds, then it should not travel at those speeds, and/or, if it cannot stop safely at any given speed, it should not travel at that speed. Keep up with traffic on that road as best possible, or stay to slower posted roads. Then again you shouldnt be foreced to travel at speeds your not comfortable with and it discriminates against you if and when you want to travel a particular road. what to do, what to do.
I say leave it up to the operator, just dont impose max speeds on any type vehicle, if its safe, its safe. PERIOD.
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And this BS about minimum age requirements for vehicle operations, I've seen videos of 5yr old on mini motobikes doing stunts. They are extremely skilled and tallented. So are 5 yr old trapese/circus performers. Point is, train a person properly and there shouldnt be any real issues, otherwise its age discrimination. If they screw up, let the courts suspend their privilage till a time when they can prove they are ready. Dont punish a young person and discriminate against them based on their age, I've meet and seen children far far more intelligent and mature than most adults I come across.
Then again, maybe a new law should be made that lets certain proven able bodied ppl to be exempt from certain laws like the no cell phone laws, age restriction laws, and punish them twice as bad if and when they screw up.
The Gov's will give anyone and everyone a license, the road tests are a joke. But theres big money to be made when everyones on the road (mechanics, hospitals, lawyers, police, body shops, insurance co's, etc..).
Perhaps ppl should start sueing their local government or DMV because it is THEY who granted a license to the person who caused the accident, because your not at fault or lible dont you know, blame can allways be passed onto someone other than the true person(s) at fault. Maybe then they'll start getting stricter on who they let on the roads.
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A person is responsible (lible) for their actions, whatever they may be? If you do something dumb, you pay for it. You get drunk and drive and cause an accident, its YOUR fault, and NOT the bars/restaurants. It was YOU drinking and not the bar owner. KNOW YOU LIMITS AND KNOW YOUR ABILITIES, its YOUR responsibily, not someone elses. If you want me to be responsible for you, they fine, but you must do exactly as I say, any deviation absolves me of responsibility. Does that sound fair? I dont think so, so why let others dictate your existance.
Regardless of how you travel or what you travel with (car, truck, motorcycle, MB, bicycle, wheel chair, grocery cart, baby stroller, skateboard, wheeled luggage, etc...) most laws (Im in Canada but I believe its simmilar in the U.S.) have in most motor vehicle acts/statutes things that include in the use of a vehicle
1. due care
2. negligence
3. safe operation of
4. and sililar
So, if your driving a car and yapping on the cell, playing with the radio, shaving, applying make up, pickin yer nose, etc... and you cause an accident, it can be considered as neglegence causing harm/damage, unsafe operation of a vehicle, not applying due care, etc... Dont make it illegal to talk on a cell, smoke, drive one handed, etc.. Punish ONLY those who deserve punishment. Get the idiots off the roads and most problems will be solved.
Same goes if your riding your MB and you strike a pedestrian who had the right of way, or going faster than the conditions met, or operating a vehicle beyond your means, etc... its negligence, unsafe operation, etc...
Same goes if your on the sidewalk pushing a full heavy grocery cart and you hit an old lady knocking her to the ground and she breaks her hip and drops her expensive antique porecean collection of fuggly figurines, it can be considered as neglegence causing harm/damage, not applying due care, etc...
Stick to simple things and the law is simpler, more effective, everyone understand it, etc....
I've been motorly active for near 20 yrs, I have the ability to shift gears, eat a pizza, drink a coffee and smoke a cigarette all at the same time while maintaining safe operation of my vehicle in reverse at freeway speeds. I know some will say thats not safe, but Im just giving an example so relax ( but there are ppl with similar abilities). Meanwhile there are ppl out there who are afraid to pass a transport truck, can barely see over the dashboard, and cant chew gum and walk at the same time without knocking someone down.
make a simple law that punishes only those who actually commit an offence of damage or cause injury, rather than enfore laws or create laws because someone somewhere MIGHT do something bad, regardless what you operate.
If I can safely drive while juggling fireing bowling pins and balance a dozzen plates on my nose then so be it. If I drive the speed limit and am doing everything by the "book" and dont apply the brakes when someone stops infront of me and I rear end them because I panicked, then I should be charged. Not only charged but lose my lisence till I can prove I can safely operate a vehicle again.
I really dislike laws that punish intelligent, thoughtfull, considerate, good ppl just because theres a few morons out there that dont have basic common sense.
Dont make a law against a certain type vehicle, enfore laws on the person and their ACTIONS.
Dont outlaw a MB because someone somewhere MIGHT have an accident, because by that logic, every vehicle everywhere should be outlawed because someone might get hurt one day. We should all just stay at home and have machines feed us and whipe our butts.
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I can pedle along at 50Km/hr (30Mph) routinely and reach maximum speeds of 60Kms (38Mph) for 40 seconds at a time before lactic acid burns up my legs causing me to stop peddling that hard and I get winded.
Why then should a motorized bicycle be limited to 32Km's (20Mph) ??? I routinely pass scooters and mopeds.
If I can safely stop a moving vehicle given any circumstance, then what diff does it matter what that vehicle is (car, bike,rollerskates)?? If Im smart enough to guage a proper speed for the road Im on and for my vehicle and for my abilities, then I should be allowed to travel at that speed with no maximum speed imposed upon me. If the moronic operator cant determine a safe speed for their particular circumstances, then in my opinion, they should not have the right or privilage to be on the road. They are a danger to me, and themselves.
Limiting a MB to a certain max top speed is like saying that because really heavy transport trucks require far more stopping distance and can easily cause carnage, that they should only be allowed to travel at a maximum highway speed of 75Kms (45Mph) and 50Kms (30Mph) off highways. That makes it safer for everyone, right? Wrong, because now these slower moving vehicles are causing safety issues of their own as faster moving vehicles appraoch them, and they become moving road hazzards.
Same applies to limited speed vehicles. Therefore my rationality says to have no imposed max speed restriction on the road, however, the vehicle (regardless of what it is) should be capable of safely maintaining that speed and should be able to safely and controllably stop within pre determined specifications based on different speeds, so that it is the same or similar to cars + motorcycles (based on stopping distances relative to speed). If it cannot safely reach certain max speeds, then it should not travel at those speeds, and/or, if it cannot stop safely at any given speed, it should not travel at that speed. Keep up with traffic on that road as best possible, or stay to slower posted roads. Then again you shouldnt be foreced to travel at speeds your not comfortable with and it discriminates against you if and when you want to travel a particular road. what to do, what to do.
I say leave it up to the operator, just dont impose max speeds on any type vehicle, if its safe, its safe. PERIOD.
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And this BS about minimum age requirements for vehicle operations, I've seen videos of 5yr old on mini motobikes doing stunts. They are extremely skilled and tallented. So are 5 yr old trapese/circus performers. Point is, train a person properly and there shouldnt be any real issues, otherwise its age discrimination. If they screw up, let the courts suspend their privilage till a time when they can prove they are ready. Dont punish a young person and discriminate against them based on their age, I've meet and seen children far far more intelligent and mature than most adults I come across.
Then again, maybe a new law should be made that lets certain proven able bodied ppl to be exempt from certain laws like the no cell phone laws, age restriction laws, and punish them twice as bad if and when they screw up.
The Gov's will give anyone and everyone a license, the road tests are a joke. But theres big money to be made when everyones on the road (mechanics, hospitals, lawyers, police, body shops, insurance co's, etc..).
Perhaps ppl should start sueing their local government or DMV because it is THEY who granted a license to the person who caused the accident, because your not at fault or lible dont you know, blame can allways be passed onto someone other than the true person(s) at fault. Maybe then they'll start getting stricter on who they let on the roads.
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