My Phantom Experience.

[Karl Snarl]

A bit of extra "tractor factor" over top end performance.

Here in the Big O, you need that tractor factor. lol.

 

[DAMIEN1307]

Here in the Big O, you need that tractor factor. lol.

So far, i've got the best of both worlds with my Zeda Karl...lol...Can't wait until the time when new motor is finished and I can build the ultimate monster for my terrain, desert flats and mountain foot hills, which encompasses both the low end torque with the exceptable top end...lol.

 

[ImpulseRocket]

Here in the Big O, you need that tractor factor. lol.

Oh, absolutely. I don't mind having to pedal assist a motor, but I don't think people really understand how damn hilly Omaha is. They hear Nebraska and they think an endless expanse of flat land lol.

 

[Karl Snarl]

Oh, absolutely. I don't mind having to pedal assist a motor, but I don't think people really understand how damn hilly Omaha is. They hear Nebraska and they think an endless expanse of flat land lol.

Only flat is the few hundred feet from the river, all the rest is just hills!! lol.

 

[Karl Snarl]

So far, i've got the best of both worlds with my Zeda Karl...lol...Can't wait until the time when new motor is finished and I can build the ultimate monster for my terrain, desert flats and mountain foot hills, which encompasses both the low end torque with the exceptable top end...lol.

Getting there. Slowly, but I'm getting there. Going to have some toys inside the box to play with too. Going to be like the Deluxe fun kit when I get done.

 

[ImpulseRocket]

That is sounding curiously like a 288 to me.

I am ignorant enough of things that I don't get the reference. The only 288 I know is a Ferrari lol.

So far, i've got the best of both worlds with my Zeda Karl...lol...Can't wait until the time when new motor is finished and I can build the ultimate monster for my terrain, desert flats and mountain foot hills, which encompasses both the low end torque with the exceptable top end...lol.

Karl and I both need the best of both worlds in this part of the world too. Omaha sits in some ancient bluffs as one side of the Missouri River valley between here and Omaha. This means that we have some VERY steep hills to contend with, including fairly long uphill runs. Just a fun little side fact, but Omaha is ranked above San Francisco as far as "Hilliest Cities" in the U.S.. They have a couple of extremely steep hills, but we have a lot more in total lol.

Then we also have areas that are flat, and most of the highways in this part of the world when you start getting to the edge of the "city" are all 60+ Even within Omaha there are major roads with 45-55mph limits, which wouldn't be so bad if they had proper bike paths or even shoulders, but many don't. Omaha is very bike unfriendly in most areas, with exception to a couple of spots where they tried to actually put in a bike lane or two. That is actually the reason I struggled with choosing an appropriate rear sprocket, and I am still worried it is too tall. I just don't want to give up my rear disc brake if I don't have to.

When I first started looking into building another bike I even considered a shift kit.

I actually purchased one from SBP and a few other extra bits and bobs to go with it just because. I Decided against using it for a few reasons, one being the Phantom is so powerful and it would probably just destroy every freewheel I tried to put behind it, or just keep breaking chains. The reason the shift kit is so appealing is due to those hills and the other terrain.

I am still slightly tempted to try it one day, but it will be with an internally geared hub setup with a HD 415 sprocket freewheel and a custom 415 crank sprocket. Even then, it's a bit iffy. I understand all the pitfalls and drawbacks to the jackshafts, so no need to preach to me. I know they are a very polarizing thing.

 

[Karl Snarl]

I am ignorant enough of things that I don't get the reference. The only 288 I know is a Ferrari lol.

Karl and I both need the best of both worlds in this part of the world too. Omaha sits in some ancient bluffs as one side of the Missouri River valley between here and Omaha. This means that we have some VERY steep hills to contend with, including fairly long uphill runs. Just a fun little side fact, but Omaha is ranked above San Francisco as far as "Hilliest Cities" in the U.S.. They have a couple of extremely steep hills, but we have a lot more in total lol.

Then we also have areas that are flat, and most of the highways in this part of the world when you start getting to the edge of the "city" are all 60+ Even within Omaha there are major roads with 45-55mph limits, which wouldn't be so bad if they had proper bike paths or even shoulders, but many don't. Omaha is very bike unfriendly in most areas, with exception to a couple of spots where they tried to actually put in a bike lane or two. That is actually the reason I struggled with choosing an appropriate rear sprocket, and I am still worried it is too tall. I just don't want to give up my rear disc brake if I don't have to.

When I first started looking into building another bike I even considered a shift kit.

I actually purchased one from SBP and a few other extra bits and bobs to go with it just because. I Decided against using it for a few reasons, one being the Phantom is so powerful and it would probably just destroy every freewheel I tried to put behind it, or just keep breaking chains. The reason the shift kit is so appealing is due to those hills and the other terrain.

I am still slightly tempted to try it one day, but it will be with an internally geared hub setup with a HD 415 sprocket freewheel and a custom 415 crank sprocket. Even then, it's a bit iffy. I understand all the pitfalls and drawbacks to the jackshafts, so no need to preach to me. I know they are a very polarizing thing.

Get the UHD Freewheel. I just got mine in today. P85 ain't no match for it. This thing is beefie as all can be. I'm totally impressed with it!! I've ran the HD freewheel for 3800 miles, the locking cap wore out ( I really beat my bikes hard), but I have a new one now and the UHD Freewheel to boot.

 

[Karl Snarl]

I am ignorant enough of things that I don't get the reference. The only 288 I know is a Ferrari lol.

Karl and I both need the best of both worlds in this part of the world too. Omaha sits in some ancient bluffs as one side of the Missouri River valley between here and Omaha. This means that we have some VERY steep hills to contend with, including fairly long uphill runs. Just a fun little side fact, but Omaha is ranked above San Francisco as far as "Hilliest Cities" in the U.S.. They have a couple of extremely steep hills, but we have a lot more in total lol.

Then we also have areas that are flat, and most of the highways in this part of the world when you start getting to the edge of the "city" are all 60+ Even within Omaha there are major roads with 45-55mph limits, which wouldn't be so bad if they had proper bike paths or even shoulders, but many don't. Omaha is very bike unfriendly in most areas, with exception to a couple of spots where they tried to actually put in a bike lane or two. That is actually the reason I struggled with choosing an appropriate rear sprocket, and I am still worried it is too tall. I just don't want to give up my rear disc brake if I don't have to.

When I first started looking into building another bike I even considered a shift kit.

I actually purchased one from SBP and a few other extra bits and bobs to go with it just because. I Decided against using it for a few reasons, one being the Phantom is so powerful and it would probably just destroy every freewheel I tried to put behind it, or just keep breaking chains. The reason the shift kit is so appealing is due to those hills and the other terrain.

I am still slightly tempted to try it one day, but it will be with an internally geared hub setup with a HD 415 sprocket freewheel and a custom 415 crank sprocket. Even then, it's a bit iffy. I understand all the pitfalls and drawbacks to the jackshafts, so no need to preach to me. I know they are a very polarizing thing.

I love my shifter bike!!! I love it, I love it, I love it!!!!! It's a rolling scrap yard, but my gerd the engine is perfect, and I love having gears!! I can climb anything!! An if you get one of those mega cog sets, you can climb tree's!!!!

 

[Karl Snarl]

I am ignorant enough of things that I don't get the reference. The only 288 I know is a Ferrari lol.

Karl and I both need the best of both worlds in this part of the world too. Omaha sits in some ancient bluffs as one side of the Missouri River valley between here and Omaha. This means that we have some VERY steep hills to contend with, including fairly long uphill runs. Just a fun little side fact, but Omaha is ranked above San Francisco as far as "Hilliest Cities" in the U.S.. They have a couple of extremely steep hills, but we have a lot more in total lol.

Then we also have areas that are flat, and most of the highways in this part of the world when you start getting to the edge of the "city" are all 60+ Even within Omaha there are major roads with 45-55mph limits, which wouldn't be so bad if they had proper bike paths or even shoulders, but many don't. Omaha is very bike unfriendly in most areas, with exception to a couple of spots where they tried to actually put in a bike lane or two. That is actually the reason I struggled with choosing an appropriate rear sprocket, and I am still worried it is too tall. I just don't want to give up my rear disc brake if I don't have to.

When I first started looking into building another bike I even considered a shift kit.

I actually purchased one from SBP and a few other extra bits and bobs to go with it just because. I Decided against using it for a few reasons, one being the Phantom is so powerful and it would probably just destroy every freewheel I tried to put behind it, or just keep breaking chains. The reason the shift kit is so appealing is due to those hills and the other terrain.

I am still slightly tempted to try it one day, but it will be with an internally geared hub setup with a HD 415 sprocket freewheel and a custom 415 crank sprocket. Even then, it's a bit iffy. I understand all the pitfalls and drawbacks to the jackshafts, so no need to preach to me. I know they are a very polarizing thing.

I won't tell you what cog set I run, I won't tell anyone. They are vintage and extremely rare to find the old good ones. The new ones are much weaker than the set I buy. Last ones I bought for a few bucks each on ebay, guy didn't know what he had, I bought them all. I may have the last 5 New Old Stock of these cogs sets left in existence. I haven't seen any for a year now. If I do, I'm buying them. lol

 

[ImpulseRocket]

Get the UHD Freewheel. I just got mine in today. P85 ain't no match for it. This thing is beefie as all can be. I'm totally impressed with it!! I've ran the HD freewheel for 3800 miles, the locking cap wore out ( I really beat my bikes hard), but I have a new one now and the UHD Freewheel to boot.

I have the HD unit for now and a couple of extra bearings for it just in case. I was under the impression that the UHD unit wasn't meant to work with the 2 stroke shift kits? I know very little about them though, so I didn't want to spend that kind of money on one.

My concern with breaking freewheels is the rear freewheel set though, not the crank side with the shift kit. Hence the internally geared hub with a HD 415 driven freewheel out back. There is a company that makes freewheels intended for e-bikes that are supposedly a bit stronger. If I decide to try the shift kit I may give that a shot, but my big concern is still the bike chain holding the power.