New Hampshire MB registration as a Moped

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  1. SirJakesus

    SirJakesus Guest

    I just got my Motored Bike registered in New Hampshire as a Moped. It's incredibly easy and painless. Heres how it's done.

    Required specifications:
    No more than 50cc
    No more than 30mph on the flats
    Headlight viewable from 500 yards in dark
    Taillight AND brake light viewable from 500 yards in dark
    Must not require you to shift for engine power (variable transmissions ok and clutch ok)
    Registration costs $3 per year (yeah, three whole dollars)
    No fee for plate.
    No inspection, ever! Not even when registration is first issued. (I was very surprised by this myself)

    Heres what you need to bring with you to the DMV:
    Bike frame serial# (usually underneath near the crank)
    Make and manufacturer

    No title required, No bill of sale. Just tell them it's a home built from a kit. I was able to register without even a picture of the thing.

    I went to the Milford DMV on rte 101. This was a piece of cake, don't hesitate to get your plate and registration so the cops will NEVER bother you.
    And please, don't try to f--- the system. This state seems very reasonable about it so we really don't need people making monster bikes capable of pulling 70mph with a 6 speed tranny. Keep it legal or as close to it as possible so your fellow MBers can register trouble free.
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  2. quay1962

    quay1962 Guest

    that's cool

    thank you for your post~! glad things are good out in your neck of the woods, happy motoring!
  3. What did you say for make and model? Did you just use the make/model of the bicycle itself? Here in Colorado the requirements are basically the same but I don't know how to respond to the make and model question.
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  4. SirJakesus

    SirJakesus Guest

    Well I just told them the name of the bicycle, manufacturer and make of engine. They couldn't find it in their system so the registration listed it as a Yamaha.... Perhaps they weren't supposed to do that. But I figure it shouldn't matter. I'm guessing its close to impossible to add a ton of bicycle manufacturers to their database to justify a $3 fee for each one registered.
  5. loquin

    loquin Active Member

    Cool. I used to live in Milford, back in the early 80's. It's nice to hear that they're so easy on us. How is the state of bike lanes now in NH?
  6. SirJakesus

    SirJakesus Guest

    Still non-existent for the most part. I saw some bike lanes around southern Nashua but other than that nothing. The main roads seem to have adequate breakdown lanes but the windy roads still have the white line about a tires width away from the edge of the pavement.
    It's still nice to ride up here with the scenery and all the curves and hillside roads and such. I have to say I almost prefer having the moped plate on there because now that I'm considered a motor vehicle I ride right in the center of my lane until I have a car coming up on me. At which point I pull to the right side of the road and they pass giving me plenty of space. I think my full lighting system makes people respect me as a motor vehicle a lot too. They're much slower to pass and give me much more space.
  7. ozzyu812

    ozzyu812 Member

    I'm in Concord, NH and I do not want motorized bikes to be considered mopeds. Anything that require a plate also require a drivers license. Which I'm going be without for a little while longer. I work in Bow and live in the Heights ( for the 2 of you that may know those locations ) its 6mi away no big deal to ride without a motor. But we are looking to buy a house within a 20 mi radius. In which case I will have to have a motorized bike in order to get to work. Motorized bikes that can't go over 20mph on a flat do not need a plate. My fear is that the cops start seeing motorized bikes with plates and start thinking I have to have one, which I don't and I get hassled. Then I wont be able to get a house and have to continue to flush nearly 1000 bucks a month in rent down the toilet.
    So what are you guys motivation for for putting a moped an your motorized bikes? Weekend joy rides?
    If someone can build a machine that goes 70, more power to them. If they suceed it would have to be registered as a motorcycle.
  8. SirJakesus

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    I've searched through NH laws for the three years I've been riding and saw absolutely no mention of a "motorized bicycle." Sure, I rode around my neck of the woods without any problems for years however that doesn't mean they're legal in the eyes of some rookie cop. The closest thing I could find on the law books was Moped, which is very easy to register, and a "motor-driven cycle" which is defined as a motorcycle with a motor under 5hp OR a bicycle with an engine attached.
    I got mine registered because it was painless and cheap. I want to be able to ride it anywhere without having to worry about the fuzz.
    If you had your license yanked theres probably a reason and I'm sure adding operating an unregistered motor vehicle after suspension isn't going to help your situation.
    Check out if you don't believe me, it's right there in black and white. Call up the DMV or state police and ask them, I'd be overjoyed to hear these don't need registration in our state because my little bro could start riding one. But with the way our govt at all levels farks people constantly, I'm not taking my chances.
  9. sparky

    sparky Active Member

    It's pretty hard to imagine a motorized bike that *won't* do 20mph. I think 25-30mph is a much more practical speed for our type of 'mopeds'.
  10. ozzyu812

    ozzyu812 Member

    I just reread my post, it looks like it was pretty upset. I'm sorry for the tone. You have to understand I've been dealing with this since you was in Jr. High. Also I just rode everyday though one of the worst winters in NH history.
    Before I lived in a place that had public transportation.
    I think when I did my initial research what I found was aparently too general. Well it looks like I have decision to make, Either continue to waste money on rent or get a stealthy electric motor.
    I just had to reboot because my keyboard stopped working. So I had a little time to think. In all likelyhood I'll be getting my license back in 3-4 months just about the time we will be ready to buy a house. But still wont have the $$ for a car so I'm still getting a power assisted bike. 1st get that stealthy electric motor then add the 2 stroke. It wont do 70 but i bet it will be pretty quick! and a "motorcycle" LOL

    I can think of 3 ways to reduce a motors top speed.
    1- get a 70T rear spocket
    2- get or make a restrictive exhaust. like welding 2 mufflers end to end.
    3- make a restrictor plate for the carb
    i like option 1 the best because you dont lose any power just speed that is used for torque for some amazing hill climbing ability.
  11. eljefino

    eljefino Member

    I'm in Maine and wonder if they'd let me register as a nonresident.

    I could tell them I'm spending the week at a campground, and Maine doesn't require a plate (true).

    They would probably take my money.

    I could get a Maine plate but I have to get insurance, which isn't a problem, but I just think it's ridiculous- what on earth of any value am I going to take out?
  12. loquin

    loquin Active Member

    As an example: what if you caused an accident (where you were found at fault) where a car swerves to miss you, and smacks into a tree, or another car?

    The most that you could do yourself is probably a thousand or so damage to an auto. It's the secondary stuff that could add up.
  13. eljefino

    eljefino Member

    by that same argument, why not get bicycle or pedestrian's insurance?

    wonder what the tort laws are like, ie if I'm a sub 20 mph "bicycle", forget the motor, how they'd make it stick. Of course that would mean having to hire my own defense attorney, they'd otherwise use his absence to play some obscure legal hijink.
  14. SirJakesus

    SirJakesus Guest

    Insurance (of all kinds) is the biggest pyramid scheme rip-off of all time. I'm glad NH doesn't REQUIRE any of it for registration or operation.
    I can live on very little, no matter how much you get sued you can't bleed a stone. :)
  15. loquin

    loquin Active Member

    Philosophically then, do you think it's OK, if (repeat, IF) you were the underlying cause of an accident that led to someone else totaling their car, that they have to pay for the damages that were a result of your actions? (hypothetically, you recklessly pulled out in front of them...)

    I'm just trying to understand your point of view.
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  16. connoisseur

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    I recently got plates in California. it was a funny time @ the dmv. they had me running in circles. but thanks to this forum i stuck to my guns and told the dmv basically what was up with the laws. i had to have the agent helping me get the head person in charge to look up the laws. now originally i wasn't going to get plates. but how big my bike is and where i live in the suburbs, of cali. silicon valley to be exact, and after a ticket riding my first setup without the pedal part fully working, i got popped and it cost me $8oo.oo.

    so long story short i went to the dmv after getting everything intact with my ride. after the dmv and the run around. they gave me the form that i needed, told me to go
    outside and see the the inspector. that was fun, kinda joked around with the inspector to ease the confusion of what he was looking @. i gave him the forum and said yeah its a moped. now being that there is no real vin, i told him it was the serial number on the frame. now on the cali form the i filled out it asked for the vin so i put the serial# on the bike. it also asked what make. i put custom not sure how this was going to fly, i paid them their $18.00, they sent it to Sacramento the head of dmv out here. i was waiting and waiting and then it came.

    So now i decided to put a 5.5hp Honda motor with an electric starter. i want to go fast without any problems with a helmet of course, and ride for long rides without any motor problems. the good thing is i can go as fast as a moped. and the plates keep the cops off of my tail... except when they just want to talk about how cool it is. and there is a 2 stroke law....
  17. eljefino

    eljefino Member

    My philosophy is getting sued for something my motored-bike activities could cause would be like getting struck by lightning twice.

    An attorney might try to make it stick if I, neglectfully...

    left my car unlocked with some peanut butter in the trunk, a kid got in who was allergic to the stuff, ate it and died...

    I threw a lawnmower out at the dump, someone fished it out, the blade spun off, wrecking their ankle...

    my bandaid falls off in the ocean, someone steps on it on the beach and contracts some wierd disease...

    there is not enough insurance in the world to cover me against these freak occurrences...

    As a bicyclist I have to follow the rules of the road, sure, but the stretch from bike to motored bike doesn't seem like enough to get insurance...

    Heard some guy paying $70 a year... wonder if that's $69 in profit for the insurance company, because it's so obscure and specialized.

    Personally I believe one's insurance should be tied to their license (like an SR22) and based on the riskiest vehicle they own with every other vehicle being FREE. I have 4 cars right now and can only drive one at a time! One could save gas by having a fleet of purpose-specific vehicles if the standing costs... registration, insurance, etc are minimized, but there are too many fingers in the pot for that to happen. Which is why I like the motored-bike concept over an actual motorcycle that I can only ride 5 months a year. It would burn me up seeing it sit in my garage, knowing I'm paying for the plates when it's of no use to me.

    Am not against having insurance OR taking responsibility... but there's a point when having TOO MUCH insurance makes one a target for nuisance lawsuits... attorneys look for "deep pockets" like Mcdonalds and the hot coffee suit...
  18. connoisseur

    connoisseur Guest

    it seems in this world u got to pay to play. its a 1 time fee out here in cali. insurance on a moped? need to look into that.
  19. SirJakesus

    SirJakesus Guest

    I'm not a jerk, I ride and drive responsibly unlike a lot of the other people I see around here (especially Ma ssHoles.) The only close calls I've ever had were always somebody else's fault because they weren't paying attention (on the phone or playing with GPS) or they were just driving wild. If I was truly at fault I would pay out of my own pocket. If they wanted to bring litigation even though I know I'm not at fault I would give them **** and they'd get nothing.
    I just don't think people should be forced to buy a commercial product from a huge crooked corporation as a requirement of getting on the road. It's a product of dishonest government with their hands out to corporate lobbyists and I'm glad the live free or die state hasn't turned completely fascist yet.
  20. sparky

    sparky Active Member

    Amen, Dude! Amen!!

    I wish my license plate said "live free or die"! Really... what's not to like about NH?