**** this ****ing dumb ****ing motored ****ing bike ****.

Discussion in '2-Stroke Engines' started by Hajuu, Feb 14, 2010.

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  1. Hajuu

    Hajuu Member

    After.. about 3 months of doing my build, i've had so many ****ing issues, spent so much money aside from just my time.. And I still dont even have a bike thats even moderately close to being ridable for any period other than a few minutes here and there..

    Current issues that are STILL THERE are:
    1. The master link clip issue. So far im on my second chain after about 4 rides.. And once again trying to install the master link after taking the chain off to replace the tube, the clips just wont go on.. Tried reversing the chain, squeezing the links hard, filing down the chain on all 4 sides where the link connects... Nothing will get the pins sticking far enough out to use the clip, the exact same issue I had with my first chain. Everything is lined up perfectly, the chain looks as new and clearly lines up as perfectly as possible (the two end links)... No ****ing idea but its so infuriating.

    2. Once again for some unknown reason I have absolutely zero acceleration response. I posted this question before but didn't really receive any constructive advice except to check the throttle cable, which is exactly how it has always been.

    I at this point have zero doubt in my mind that this will be far from the last thing to go wrong with this kit.

    But im far from being a quitter...........


  2. Dont give up,you'll get it sooner or later.
  3. AussieSteve

    AussieSteve Active Member

    You received useful advice, then said it was running OK and stopped responding to the thread.
    My advice - get someone who knows what they're doing to look at it.

    Update - the original thread on the throttle/carb problem is continuing here.

    Regarding the master link, have you tried a different one and if so, have you tried putting it on when the chain is not on the bike?
    A photo would help.

    ... Steve
    Last edited: Feb 14, 2010
  4. bamabikeguy

    bamabikeguy Active Member

    Hajuu, please take this as constructive criticism, but also as a method for newcomers to get rolling. (We had the same thing in rackmounts early on, and now it has really settled down.)

    But you started 9 threads in this 2 cycle category, and it is hard/impossible to follow along, it jumps all over the place...photos and such.

    One bike is best addressed by one looooong thread, especially when the type of engine is highlighted in the title.

    Then you get a few mentors with the identical setup to guide you along the way. The forum operates 24/7, so you would get advise from every time zone.

    Some bike builds are 50 replies deep with hundreds of views, new attachments continuously added.

    And it makes for smoother MB.assisting.
  5. augidog

    augidog New Member

    if i was still admin'ing, i'd quote bama's post and close this down...

    that's not personal Hajuu but it would appear that way i know, everyone always took it personal. forums are great tools but must be properly used, multiple posts about the same bike and subject lines like this one are counterproductive to your goal of getting that thing running right...man, settle down, and give folks time to respond, and carefully gauge those responses before you make a move. this isn't a service site but peeps sharing of their own free will, learn a bit about how to use a forum & let the place do it's job :cool2:
  6. Hajuu

    Hajuu Member

    3 months of advice on probably 15 different things in 1 thread?

    Sounds like a terrible way to get anything done...

    Anyway, it's nothing to do with you guys, wouldn't have even gotten this far without any of you, just very annoyed at the ongoing progress..

    @ Give me vtec: I don't see why there would be anything with the carb though hey, like it starts and clearly draws fuel and burns it, its just the throttle that is having no response. Unless its an adjustment or blockage of some kind.. My local parts dealer didnt have any new carbs for my model engine (im in australia).

    As for the chain issue I really really like having a master link because its so unreliable.. if it breaks down all I need is my sprocket spanner tool thing to take the chain off and im cruising bike style rather than having a possibly locked bike wheel and somehow having to get it home with no car. Besides that it really seems like an impossible problem to me, as everything looks kosher with both ends of the chain, which is very clean and brand new practically on both counts..

    @ Aussie Steve: It seems entirely likely to me to be something to do with the clutch since, as I said before, I handmade my new bucking bar, so it might be too long? I did notice that as before with the stock bar it worked perfectly with the handle-clip for the clutch (for take offs), but now the clutch is only functioning fully pulled in. I figured it was just a minor adjustment problem. It may well have felt a bit stiffer than usual even with the clutch pulled entirely in, but its hard to say for sure.
    Last edited: Feb 14, 2010
  7. Stan4d

    Stan4d New Member

    :confused:Sorry, I do not see vtec's post. That is a reason why it is best to keep things to one thread.
    :detective:pics of the chain problem would be a great help in soving your problem. A chain break tool might be better for you if you continue to have prolems. they are small enough to carry with you nect to your sprocket spanner tool thing. A little more time consuming but it might be less irritating.
    As well as pics of the carb (Where the needle and clip is on the throttle cable.) You might also want to check fuel flow....if you have an inline filter, throw away the intank filter.
    :thinking:Last piece of advise...Patience, this is a hobby to most and working on it to get it running is half the fun.
  8. augidog

    augidog New Member

    it isn't. once you get the single "project" topic rolling, people come back in (or subscribe) to see how you're doing or what you're up to...and everyone new who comes along can watch and maybe learn and maybe ask you questions someday...give them a link to your bike-thread and now you're pitching in too. or, you can just come in stomp around yell for help fix your bike move on cya later...you wouldn't be the first...either way it's still faster for you to use one specific topic with your whole project. we wouldn't be sayin' so just to be sayin' it yaknow :)

    Last edited: Feb 14, 2010
  9. give me vtec

    give me vtec Active Member

    I deleted them... he is on the right thread.
  10. Stan4d

    Stan4d New Member

    Thanks for clearing that up.
  11. arkives1

    arkives1 Member

    **** this ****ing dumb

    I agree with Stan4d...get an extra chain and a heavy duty chain breaker, carry a few links and the breaker with you on your rides and you can fix the chain without a master link. There is a whole thread on here for Newbies, perhaps you should read it, a better sparkplug might help as well. Sick Bike Parts has them and they are very helpful if you ask for information. No one here is going to be able to diagnose your lack of throttle response. I'd guess either you have the needle in the wrong setting or the cable is not pulling the throttle open, or you have an air leak at the intake. There are many things that can and will go wrong on these things. Going at it with a "Giterdone" attitude won't work. Good luck! Woody
  12. Stan4d

    Stan4d New Member

    I am not going to bother looking for a new thread.....did he jump, or did he give up?
  13. AussieSteve

    AussieSteve Active Member

  14. motorpsycho

    motorpsycho Active Member

    I think he should just give up and find a different hobby. If he can't get a master link in the chain, and he can't figure out why he has no throttle response he is already in over his head. These 2 things (for some) are more than likely simple fixes, but it seems like he's struggling trying to figure out how to fix it.
    i can envision the chain in my head, where he is trying to put the master link. I'm seeing that the ends of the chain have extra 1/2 links still on them...making the chain too thick for the master link pins to slide all the way through. you have to have 2 female ends (the inner links) for the master link to fit. the master link is an outer link and i see him having 2 male ends (outer links) without the pins, and that would make the master link pins too short to go through the chain links. or,if he is trying to put the master link on the chain while the chain is being pulled tight on the sprockets...it will never go in. loosen the chain, remove it from at least one sprocket, and then put the master link in.
    as for the throttle...i am betting, that he does not have the pin in the carb body lined up with the slide. this will cause the slide to bind up and not work at all....no throttle response. if the engine runs, he is clearly getting fuel, so the only thing that would keep it from revving up is that the slide is not moving. either due to misalignment of the slide, OR a broken throttle cable.
    it can't be that difficult to figure out....why has it come to that point tho?
    the fact that he lost his clutch bar tells me that he did not go through all of the nuts & bolts on this engine and make sure they were tight and/or apply loc-tite.
    maybe it's just me and maybe some people just don't understand mechanics like a lot of other people do. it isn't THAT difficult.
    Last edited: Feb 16, 2010
  15. arkives1

    arkives1 Member

    ****this***ing dumb****ing motored

    Amen Brother!
  16. Hajuu

    Hajuu Member

    Heh, kind of rude...

    I didn't really know what to say besides 'yeah ok ill just hard pin my chain because mysteriously even to my dealer, the chain once again wont take a master link'. I thought the sarcasm might be lost in text.

    But thanks for your encouraging words. Really.

    I can imagine someone who thinks they're better than everyone else, by thinking of absolutely retardedly absurd reasons why they're all idiots. I already said i'd had a master link fitted before, it's literally an issue of a few millimeters, i'd even said I'd checked for grime and dirt etc.. I'm all ears, sincerely.

    But don't worry, the best way to react to someone who's clearly frustrated is definitely by patronizing their intelligence.

    Just because I don't know *everything* about engines, doesn't mean I am incapable of intelligence. I probably know many things you don't, and vice versa.

  17. augidog

    augidog New Member

    Hajuu, for the most part this group will never get on you because you don't know something (yet)...let the mindless criticism go...BUT, if you wanna open the door and mention rudeness, then i'll tell you that this subject line is rude, and technically utterly useless as pertains to searchability...your ignoring seasoned members GOOD (and initially well-intentioned) advice about forum-usage & repair-attitude is rude, too...just calling it like it is...so maybe you're not getting everything this forum has to offer because you're not thinking this thing thru.

    pick a single topic and keep it alive, preferably the other one let this "nasty" one fade away...be patient and polite, take it step by step, there's no secret to this, just certain procedure that we've all grown used to as workable.
  18. motorpsycho

    motorpsycho Active Member

    no, i was not being sarcastic...i was being serious.
    I have a spare master link right here in my hand, and the posts on it measure 12 mm.
    measuring from the inside flat of the link that the posts are riveted into, the the end past where the clip goes on.
    I am trying to help you, and it honestly sounds like you are overlooking something simple.
    i'm not trying to say that i think i'm better than you...not by any means.
    I am just trying to get the point across that these things take a ton of tinkering to get them to work right, and if you have little to no mechanical/fabrication skills, no idea how things are supposed to go together, and how to make things work when they won't, then this hobby is not for you.
  19. AussieSteve

    AussieSteve Active Member

    Yep, I agree with everything said above.
    No one is intentionally having a go at you, and we are trying to help.
    It's impossible to remotely see what you're seeing. We try to picture it in our minds, but aren't always right.
    If you have a camera, take a couple of pics of the chain problem from a couple of angles and post them (in the other thread). As the old cliché goes - a picture is worth a thousand words.

    ... Steve
    Last edited: Feb 17, 2010
  20. darwin

    darwin Well-Known Member

    Hajuu get a BMP style friction kit and spend your time riding instead of fixing, with a HS motor slapped on it youll have a trouble free setup.
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