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Grubee \HS from Aus has drawback
Jim the kiddies 3 piece kit cranks are 200mm apart at the axle and 252 mm apart between the pedals - that's the internal dims. The length of each crank is 5 & 1/2" or 138mm.
Those kits being talked about above are a great step forward but be aware that the one from MBB Imports offers a HuaSheng that has a cable operated choke so for absolutely no logical reason you will have another lever on your handlebars when you are desperately trying to get rid of levers. A choke cable adjuster & holder is attached to a stainless steel plate that bolts on top of the valve rocker cover which looks quite good except it adds to the motor's height which is something we don't want in an already very tight space. Why the motors are like this is beyond be. I only found out when it arrived and it is not shown on the website. I sort of think these might be a batch of rear mounts chucked in with frame mount kits. People need to know this because it is a big handicap for anyone wanting to frame mount a whopper stopper kit. I am beginning to think I can pinch the plate off the HS and use it to rig up a potentially great throttle solution for using on the Honda.
The Honda throttle is a real pain and has no spring return like the H\S.
The Aussie Hoot kit I also have sitting in front of me and the drawbacks have been noted elsewhere with photos of the absolutely terrible shaft key which has been forced into the clutch keyway with a steam drop hammer. It's a dog's breakfast of a job but is fixable. The Hoot tray is also a dog's breakfast and won't fit any cruiser I know of in Australia. It is non-adjustable and the holding studs are welded onto the tray so I can't replace them with Aussie steel ones. I will cut them off and use cup head bolts or something but the angle of the tray ends prevents the studs being fed through a hole so I'll cut 6mm wide slots and slide the bolts down with an extra steel plate to strengthen the ends of the tray. It will be a long boring job but totally necessary cos the welded chinese studs will break on the first bump I am willing to bet.
The problems with the two kits mentioned above are quite serious but the Hoot engine with the Grubee kit would solve all of these issues cos the hoot has the standard HS with lever choke and the Grubee has an adjustable tray.
The whole situation is just ridiculous and it is costing me serious money to resolve things that should not be happening. Oh yes, for the time being be warned that the dual brake levers offered with the abovementioned Grubee kit from Aus are too flimsy to use and are the sort of thing that retails for 50 cents in a $2 shop except nobody else in Aus stocks them. There are good quality dual brakes on Mongoose BMX bikes in Oz but not sure yet if it's sold as aftermarket part. The lever is a silly shape but that can be replaced with a lever off the old HT kits. Hope this helps somone cos it's been expensive for me to find out and also very depressing.
Jim the kiddies 3 piece kit cranks are 200mm apart at the axle and 252 mm apart between the pedals - that's the internal dims. The length of each crank is 5 & 1/2" or 138mm.
Those kits being talked about above are a great step forward but be aware that the one from MBB Imports offers a HuaSheng that has a cable operated choke so for absolutely no logical reason you will have another lever on your handlebars when you are desperately trying to get rid of levers. A choke cable adjuster & holder is attached to a stainless steel plate that bolts on top of the valve rocker cover which looks quite good except it adds to the motor's height which is something we don't want in an already very tight space. Why the motors are like this is beyond be. I only found out when it arrived and it is not shown on the website. I sort of think these might be a batch of rear mounts chucked in with frame mount kits. People need to know this because it is a big handicap for anyone wanting to frame mount a whopper stopper kit. I am beginning to think I can pinch the plate off the HS and use it to rig up a potentially great throttle solution for using on the Honda.
The Honda throttle is a real pain and has no spring return like the H\S.
The Aussie Hoot kit I also have sitting in front of me and the drawbacks have been noted elsewhere with photos of the absolutely terrible shaft key which has been forced into the clutch keyway with a steam drop hammer. It's a dog's breakfast of a job but is fixable. The Hoot tray is also a dog's breakfast and won't fit any cruiser I know of in Australia. It is non-adjustable and the holding studs are welded onto the tray so I can't replace them with Aussie steel ones. I will cut them off and use cup head bolts or something but the angle of the tray ends prevents the studs being fed through a hole so I'll cut 6mm wide slots and slide the bolts down with an extra steel plate to strengthen the ends of the tray. It will be a long boring job but totally necessary cos the welded chinese studs will break on the first bump I am willing to bet.
The problems with the two kits mentioned above are quite serious but the Hoot engine with the Grubee kit would solve all of these issues cos the hoot has the standard HS with lever choke and the Grubee has an adjustable tray.
The whole situation is just ridiculous and it is costing me serious money to resolve things that should not be happening. Oh yes, for the time being be warned that the dual brake levers offered with the abovementioned Grubee kit from Aus are too flimsy to use and are the sort of thing that retails for 50 cents in a $2 shop except nobody else in Aus stocks them. There are good quality dual brakes on Mongoose BMX bikes in Oz but not sure yet if it's sold as aftermarket part. The lever is a silly shape but that can be replaced with a lever off the old HT kits. Hope this helps somone cos it's been expensive for me to find out and also very depressing.
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