2 stroke questions

I found this on the aprilia web site. If I could figure how to copy & paste I'd do that. But just took a page of notes & took a pic. Idk if this helps, I know aprilia is a totally different animal, but the fundamentals should be the same or at apply. I would think anyhow.
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I found this on the aprilia web site. If I could figure how to copy & paste I'd do that. But just took a page of notes & took a pic. Idk if this helps, I know aprilia is a totally different animal, but the fundamentals should be the same or at apply. I would think anyhow.View attachment 158206
9.5:1 is pretty high comp for these china girls so 60% of bore is a bit over kill as this would be done on a much larger bore to maintain correct msv, msv is the speed at which the charge travels toward the flame front as it propagates outward to consume the charge in the combustion area. The squish area is to compress the end gasses in such a confined space that they super cool not being consumed by the combustion and this transfers to the piston's crown (outer edges) area and then prevents detonation or ping from occurring. Squish area as a percentage to the bore Jennings say's 50% of the bore is a general all around starting point but that relies on the head being cut that way which it's not in many cases, he also said this on the topic,
With small-bore engines you may push the compression ratio up to perhaps 6.5:l without
serious consequences, using a non-squish cylinder head, but that is very near the limit.
Good squish-band cylinder heads, on the other hand, permit compression ratios up to as
much as 9.5:l in motocross engines with exhaust systems that provide a wide boost
without any substantial peaks, but for road racing engines I cannot recommend anything
above 8.5:l, even when unit cylinder size is only 125cc. You will find that higher
compression ratios than those suggested can produce marvelously impressive flash
readings on a dynamometer; as soon as the engine has a chance to get up to full
temperature, the output will drop well below that sustained by an otherwise identical
engine with a lower compression ratio. Sustained, and not flash horsepower, is what wins races.
 
Here's another good excerpt from the bible Lol (2 stroke tuners handbook) on the subject.

Cylinder heads can be reshaped to change the power band. Generally speaking, a
cylinder head with a small diameter and deep combustion chamber, and a wide squish
band (60% of the bore area) - combined with a compression ratio of 9 to 1 is ideally
suited for low to mid range power. A cylinder head with a wide shallow chamber and a
narrow squish band (35-45% of bore area) and a compression ratio of 8 to 1, is ideally
suited for high rpm power.
There are many reasons why a particular head design works for certain types of
racing. For example; a head with a wide squish band and a high compression ratio will
generate high turbulence in the combustion chamber. This turbulence is termed
Maximum Squish Velocity, MSV is rated in meters per second (m/s). A cylinder head
designed for supercross should have an MSV rating of 28m/s. Computer design software
is used to calculate the MSV for head designs. Heads will have different specs, dependent
on the intended application, and each head design will have a MSV ratings designed for
the intended power band.
 
Thanks for the info. That's good info, I'm trying to build this china girl for low to midrange power. As this is my 1st CG build. I'm learning a lot. & everyone was mentioning that squish band needed to be widened, on that CDH cast head to the same size as 49mm bore, they were saying that particular head was made/designed for a 47mm bore.
 
I will throw my 2 cents in the middle of all this hitec talk. My Idea with most of my CG builds is to create a useful
clean running engine with the least amount of modifying. I leave that to you tuning gurus.
That said somehow I lucked on to a great combination of bolt together parts. I have been running this engine a bunch the last few days and it just gets better. Has great runability thru the entire band. in fact I have been abusing it a bit to see what it will tolerate. So far so good. There are no mods other than sleeve to cylinder matching and gutting the stock muffler.

Take away is for one wanting a good running CG these parts on a better bottom end make a great ride.
 

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That's really all I'm after, a good running stock configuration engine. If I had the money I would attempt to build myself a billet case minarelli hybrid. Or just a buy a complete minarelli hybrid from a know engine builder. Lol it sucks being a gearhead, can't leave well enough alone.
 
I've been thinking about honing this other steel sleeve cylinder to 50mm & running a yd-100 piston in it. I believe from looking at the yd-100 piston specs, it should work fine.
 
Only thing I dont know about yd-100 engine is if they run chrome plated cylinder or a chrome plated piston, if piston is chromed then it wont work in a steel sleeve cylinder.
 
Yeah I twisted wrenches my whole life and modded a bunch of stuff. Sometimes good sometimes not so much.
I have mellowed a bunch in my old age.
One other point. If you are going to run an NT style carb, go with a Bofeng Marked 80cc. I have bought 5 of the @$9.95 shipped and they have improved everything I have put them on. The secret is in it having an excellent needle profile. The carb is tunable just by raising or lowering the needle. The main jet is well suited as is. I have “trimmed” the needle a bit adding shims .007 punched from a coke can under the needle. Down side jet I believe is swedged as I couldnt
remove it. Still for a basically stock motor this is the best carb I have found

Piston is aluminum. I dont think the extra 1mm would be worth the effort. Run what you got first.
 
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