Catfishjohn's new ride build thread.

Discussion in 'General Questions' started by Catfishjohn, Mar 29, 2010.

  1. Catfishjohn

    Catfishjohn New Member

    Well, I've been wanting to build a second bike and have been looking here and there for ideas. I put alot of thought and research and wore out a couple of them internet search engines looking for answers. Just when I thought I had a plan and finally made my mind up it all changed. I was returning one evening from a bike ride with Motorbike Wanabe when my radio crackled "Cruiser bike on the side of the road!" (Yes we have radios with headsets for our bike rides) Mr Wanabe spotted a bike apparently put to the curb for the trash pick up the next day. We turned around and got it. It was a nice cruiser bike with two flat tires and a rusty chain. We wheeled it back to my place and it has become my new project. Its a Western Flyer with "Grand Trophy" on the chain guard.

    I started today removing everything from the frame to sand and paint flat black. I'm thinking maybe a chopper look with 24" rise ape hangers on it and updated wheels with larger gauge spokes with front wheel drum brake. We will have to see how this all develops. Check out my before pictures below.

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  2. Porkchop

    Porkchop Member

    Definitely worth taking home !
  3. motorpsycho

    motorpsycho Active Member

    "Yes we have radios with headsets for our bike rides".


    and WHY flat black??? the rat rod look has been done over and over and's getting old.
    Why not throw a nice shiney paint job on it and make it more unique?
    It's your bike, do what you want to do...just stating my opinion.
    Last edited: Mar 30, 2010
  4. Catfishjohn

    Catfishjohn New Member

    Thanks for your opinion but I just want it that way. I always wanted one. I might later add some color to it but for now its flat black :cool:
  5. Very COOL!

    I guess now I can't say, "Why can't I ever find anything like that?!!!"

    I guess now I should start saying, "why can't I keep my mouth shut when I find something like that?!!!" :grin5:

    I've seen the painted pictures of the bike with some shwanky new black rims and white wall tires. I'm a sucker for wide whites. :tt1:

    We'll get it all duddied up and she'll be standin' TALL!

    And yeah, we ride with radios! When you're shunned by the motorcyclists, hated by the peddlers and envied by the moped-ists, what do you expect? :jester:

    I smell envy...... :cool2:
  6. chefdouglas

    chefdouglas Member

    Good find. When I only road motor cycles I would see side walk free bikes all the time now that I ride both I never see any. Flat black is more than a faction statement, flat covers imperfection in the metal and the paint job. You never need to wax and scratches don't show and can be fixed easily. I've seen some red wall tire that look sharp and a pinstripe makes a nice custom. Please post some photo's after painting. Chrome goes with every color.
  7. That is true Chef. It's funny, in the rat rod (streetrod) realm, I've seen REAL hot rods turned away because they didn't have enough cliches. They were the forefathers of what everyone else was trying to emulate! True, flat black has been overdone, but it doesn't get done enough by folks who "really get it". I think Catfish's bike will be way cool when finished.

  8. motorpsycho

    motorpsycho Active Member

    you're wrong about black...glossy or flat.
    Actually, go ask ANY professional automotive painter and they will tell you the opposite.
    Black will bring out every imperfection in the metal.
    If you want to hide imperfections you need to use lighter colors....white is the best color to hide imperfections with.

    here's my problem with flat black.
    I'm a hot rodder and yes, i have a custom car from the 50's. no, it isn't flat black with red wheels.
    EVERY car show that i go to, there is ALWAYS someone who has a car, painted flat black, with red wheels & whitewalls.
    That color combo was popular in the 50's because the average joe didn't have any $$ to get a real paint they did what they could with what they had.
    The problem now is that people today think that flat black paint and red wheels was done by choice back then.
    sure, it did look cool at one time, but now it seems like everyone is painting things flat black & red, and calling it a rat rod. (i have seen honda civics painted like this, and people calling them rat rods).
    the term "rat rod" never existed until about 10-15 years ago. a few hot rods were built, and they were poorly built, unsafe cars painted flat black & red. someone said "man, that rod looks ratty"...and thus, the term rat rod was born.
    cars from the 50's were hot rods, not rat rods and if you tell someone who has an actual hot rod from the 50's that they have a nice rat rod, you might get a knuckle sammich.
    rat rods are cool to a point, but i hate the term, and i hate flat black & red on ANYTHING these days.
    i think that's because i see it so often on so many different things it isn't cool anymore. it's like hearing the same song on the raido every day...eventually, you get tired of hearing it.
    just my opinion, and this was not meant to cause any ill feelings or to provoke an argument.
    Last edited: Apr 4, 2010
  9. chefdouglas

    chefdouglas Member

    Color is a matter of personal preference, you (motorpsycho) don't like it many do. Your right about the reason it was used in the 50's. I have British motorcycles from the 50's none are flat black but my MB is because it is a rat rod, in a way, put together for very little money mostly with stuff I had around. Any flat color hides imperfections black included gloss black shows everything.Often flat black was used as a primer with the idea of a pro paint job in the future. Now I think it is often used to show that the work was done by an owner who is proud of a job they did rather then showing the money they had to spend. If you don't like it don't use it but let people be happy with what they like. I've listened to some songs a thousand times and still enjoy them but I agree with the idea.
  10. I'm sure we can all agree to disagree. I hear you Motopsycho, but, having seen Catfish's bike first hand, I say that I like it. I'm a sucker for wide whites! :tt1:

    Right now, he's got about $3 in the bike. Not bad for a bike that stands out from the crowd.

    I've seen a few clasified "rat Rods" that in my opinion, try too hard. They've got too many cliches in trying to make a point. I've also seen "rat Rod" cars that were actually great studies in engineering and design. They lacked chrome, not safety or thought in assembly. There's so many different variations. I say, if it looks cool, it's cool. If it tries to be something that it isn't, why do it.
  11. motorpsycho

    motorpsycho Active Member

    I'm agreeing with both of you (motorbike and chef).
    it's all a matter of opinion, and you should do what you like.
    I was just stating my opinion and what I personally think.
    That should not influence what you want to do with YOUR bike.
  12. Catfishjohn

    Catfishjohn New Member

    Well, its finished.

    I havent been on in a long time but I've been busy working on my new ride. Here are some pictures of what it looks like today....

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  13. Ha! Does anyone else find it funny that in most of the pictures, Catfish is finding it impossible to get the lens wide enough to get the WHOLE handlebars!!! :grin5:

    WE all have learned not to mess with Catfish, we heard he's gotten thrown out of some of the bike joints around the neighborhood- you know, Sparki's! :devilish:

    Looks cool John. I can sense a group ride coming along!
  14. Catfishjohn

    Catfishjohn New Member

    Whats on the bike.

    I started with an old Western Flyer bike that I found in the trash (see pictures at beginning of thread). Painted it Flat black. Then added these parts:

    Handlebars: Nirve 23" Super Apehanger Cruiser Bike Handlebar from

    Rear wheel: 11 gauge steel wheel from painted black

    38 Tooth Rear Sprocket and Hub: Manic Mechanic from Pirate Cycles

    Headlamp: Nirve.

    Mirror: Maltese Cross Mirror at

    I also polished my engine side covers.

    This is a really fun bike to ride because it gets alot of attention.

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  15. Catfishjohn

    Catfishjohn New Member

    Thanks Motorbike Wannabe. Your bike is cool too! (See
    picture of your red machine)

    As for the bike joints, They dont like us MBers anyways!
    They are friendly until they find out what I'm riding. One said
    to me "Nobody wants to pedal anymore" to which I said "Are
    you gonna sell me that tire and tube or what?"

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  16. 5-7HEAVEN

    5-7HEAVEN Guest

    It's All Good!

    Good find!

    My friend Hawaii Ed always finds good stuff like that. He found a rusty OCC Chopper in the dumpster, fixed, painted and installed a Happy Time engine on it!
  17. See! Causin' trouble in those bike joints again! :grin5:

    FWIW: Shawn and I went into the same joint and the owner was there and was checking out our rides. He was quite cordial and joking around and all with us. Not sure what the difference was, maybe he was simply responding to that leather jacket, chain driven wallet and the tattoos. Maybe you should get some Catfish!!!! :bandana:
  18. handyandy91

    handyandy91 New Member

    Awsome bike!!!:cool:

    I wish I could find a cool bike like that. I had to spend $120.00 to get one online. Should be here by Friday, then I can start my fith MB build:grin5:

    This stuff is so much fun!!! I have spent more than $1000.00 on bikes and motors in just two months. My wife is starting to get a little p.o. about all the money. How much is fun worth???

    We may have to start a thread for MB addicts. Is there one??
    (Pay electric bill or buy parts :idea: pay bill, can't build without light, darn:annoyed:)

    Maybe I should sell one bike to finance another build??:huh2:

    What is the best way to sell a MB??? In Cincinnati?

    Any way Awsome bike man!!!
  19. Alaskavan

    Alaskavan Guest

    Way cool build Catfish. Those apehangers are impresive.