Motorized Bicyclist Killed

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Here is the link to the original story: LINK

November 29, 2016


METHUEN (CBS) — A person on a motorized bicycle was struck and killed on the on-ramp from Route 110 to I-495 in Methuen Tuesday afternoon, police said.

The crash happened around 1:30 p.m. Tuesday when the person on the bike went off the sidewalk for unknown reasons.

Police say the 58-year-old man from Methuen was on the bicycle on a sidewalk next to the tri-axle truck. Both were stopped for a red light. When the light turned green, the bicyclist and truck started forward and the bicyclist came off the sidewalk and struck the truck.
“When I was coming over the bridge here, I just saw all the cops here, just the body laying on the ground, all the cops trying to do their job. It’s pretty sad how this happened,” witness Michael Ferraro of Methuen said.

Authorities said the truck driver didn’t realize he had hit anyone, but returned to the scene after another driver told him what had happened. He is identified as a 29-year-old man from Hudson, NH.

“They had the whole thing blocked off. I tried to get off the highway. The exit was blocked off. I had to go all the way around. I mean it’s crazy, stopping in the rain. That’s a pretty big truck. I mean I don’t know. That’s really sad,” Chris Pickles of Methuen told WBZ.

No charges have yet been filed against the truck driver.

State and Methuen Police continue to investigate the accident.

Jim Smith
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Another one within 10 miles of where I live, could have been me...

San Bernardino bicyclist killed in Redlands after being hit by 2 cars
REDLANDS >> A 55-year-old San Bernardino man riding a motorized bicycle was killed around Saturday night after being struck by two vehicles, according to Redlands police.

The man was riding on Alabama Street north of Pioneer Street about 10:30 p.m. when he was hit by a passenger vehicle traveling south on Alabama, according to a Redlands police news release.

The vehicle, driven by a 20-year-old Highland man, left the scene of the accident.

But, two hours later, the driver reported his involvement in the accident to Redlands police, according to the release.

“The driver came into the police station and reported that he had been involved in the accident,” said Carl Baker, city spokesman, in an email Monday.

The man told police where he had parked his vehicle, Baker said. Police located his 2010 Subaru Impreza a short distance from the site.

The man has not been arrested, Baker said.

Shortly after the accident, the victim, who was lying in the roadway, was struck by a second car driving south on Alabama Street.

The driver of that vehicle remained at the scene until police and paramedics arrived, according to the release.

The driver of the first vehicle had already left the scene before the man was struck by the second vehicle, Baker said.

The victim was treated by paramedics before being transported to Loma Linda University Medical Center where he was pronounced dead a short time later, the release says.

The accident is still under investigation.
 

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That's crazy, I hope they ring the first guy with at least accidental manslaughter, if he hadn't fled and just called the police he really probably wouldn't have been hit by a second vehicle and would have been treated that much sooner and may have lived.

I know he turned himself in but that doesn't do too much good for all the people that lost him... If I was the second driver I'd of sued the first guy for causing so much trauma on myself if I was really that upset over it. You can't just leave bodies laying around on the road!
 

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Sounds like loose fenders strikes again. Reinforce or remove them!
WILLOW SPRINGS, Mo. — A Willow Springs man was killed Friday afternoon after the Highway Patrol says his motorized bicycle malfunctioned and ejected him from the vehicle.

46-year-old Pavel Nadtochayev was pronounced dead at the scene.


The Highway Patrol says the accident happened at 12:20 pm Friday on Private Road 5123, about 7 miles west of Pomona.

The death is 10th fatality for Troop G of the Highway Patrol for this year, compared to 2 at this time last year.
 

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Than who do we blame when something goes wrong? Nothing is perfect.

I’m not sure driverless cars are the answer..
They are a better answer than humans who can barely focus on one direction at a time!

When something goes wrong you call your insurance company.


Since I don't think a self driving motorcycle would be any fun to ride the biker will likely be at fault if basically all vehicles go ai. By that time the sensor and computational ability will be so good and refined that it would basically always be the human operator to be at fault. Only an extreme minority would be placed on the equipment, and another very tiny slice to the freak accident department (tire blows out on ai vehicle and the sudden loss of control causes a fatality before the computer can correct types of situations, beyond anyone's control.)

The best answer is to give up on finding the perfect answer, once you toss humans into the mix you just cannot have one. Unless you just extinguish all of them, that might work, makes the roads a lot safer too while freeing up a lot of electricity for your soon to be self-aware overlords.
 

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This is truly tragic. Thoughts go out to their loved ones. The front fender is truly a potential fatal hazard many do not realize. If your rear fender or chain tensioner "malfunctions", you will simply back wheel lock and skid to a stop most likely. But, a front wheel lock at high speed, you are going to get the worse possible high side where the bike comes with you and prevents you from using your hands and twisting your body position to minimize damage. I advocate double and independent ways to secure the front fender even if it doesn't look great.

I wonder if the street accidents can be prevented with a dedicated bike lane. I know we are not suppose to ride in them in most states but I usually ride it or straddle the line. With all these accidents, I might reevaluate how I ride my gas and electric motorized bike. With the electric bike, on the bike paths, I and other bikers when the path goes across a street rarely fully slow down or stop; momentum is really important. I think that is more dangerous than riding on the street with traffic... Dedicated bike lanes and lights for all turns will help
 

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f*** self driving cars, especially government required ones. Government over reaches as it is. If you want a law that will help treat people using their phone while driving the same as DUI.
 

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f**k self driving cars, especially government required ones. Government over reaches as it is. If you want a law that will help treat people using their phone while driving the same as DUI.
Actually requiring stop assist features would probably be a close to best solutions, a lot of accidents are just from not seeing something at a glance or plain not looking forward at the wrong time, automatic avoidance systems could blanket a large range of problems, including the ones where a drunk drivers can't react quickly enough. It would be as useful as seat belts, when the driver fails it's a first step backup between life and death. Even seat belts aren't completely enough, hence airbags, wouldn't a system that could avoid using either of those be a fantastic addition to the usual safety equipment (aka: not smashing into anything at all is way better than being saved by a belt or bag, right?)
 
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