TravisButlerMotorBike
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Imma start this off by saying im sure plenty will have an opinion about this. Lets remember opinions are like a holes. Everybodys got one. Most all of them stink. But in the Spirit of being idk actually helpful, here was my disc brake solution for the schwindiller. BTW one of the best, toughest, nicest bikes i've ever owned. As you seen for the front they do make an adapter piece for a front disc break. Works absolutely fine. Now if your running the stock spoke tires like i am, the rear tire is gonna be a little tricky. Im going to explain it best i can, and if im feeling frisky later ill add a picture. First i bought a 44 mm 6 hole spacer. The 6 holes were threaded. This upset my drill, so i let him go to town. Next i bought a 36 - 41 tooth sprocket (dealers choice), and a 203 mm rotor. I bolted it together in the order of (from the outside in) rotor, spacer, sprocket. Then i trimmed off the excess bolt material past the nuts. Once everything was flush i took it all back apart. I then took the 9 bolts to bolt the sprocket to the spokes and place them in the 9 holes in the sprocket. After that very carefully re-bolt the rotor back on to the sprocket. Once that whole setup is together you can proceed bolting the whole get up on to your tire. You may have to dremel/sand the inside of the sprocket/spacer/rotor combo to make if fit snugly over the hub. But with a couple of 10mm wrenches and time you will get the whole thing bolted together evenly. And viola, rear disc brake.
Tip Time: Replace all the bolts with high grade whatever. Dont use the stock "butter" bolts. The only bad experience ive had using this setup was the first time i used harbor freight bolts to bolt everything together. Cue a year later, im on my way home from work, in the dark, doing 45, down hill, and my rotor bolts snapped off. It didnt wreck me, but i had no brakes, and it made my chain jump 3 times in 200 yards. I replace the bolts and bam no more problems. Second, if you do this everything must be nice, and super tight, but you also must make sure you dont strip any of the nuts or bolts. They are kinda like domino's. Once one goes its only a matter of time. Third, on the swindler the wheels are 27.5 inches, idk why, its stupid, but they are so you have to use the rubber "pineapple" mounts, but if your doing this on a 26 inch tire i recommend buying the CNC'ed "pineapple" mounts. I did and they worked great. i also filled the gaps where the spokes go with permatex gasket material just to make a little rubber bed for the spokes. Its the little things right?
Bonus Round: To mount the caliper. They make these cheap little adapters to mount the calipers. One end is supposed to go on your rear axle between the axle nut and the dropout. And the other end is supposed to clamp onto the seat stay. Ebay disc brake adapter and youll see what i mean. It'll work that way, but not well. Me personally, I straighten out the weird little bend in it that makes it pop out from the dropouts, so the whole thing is flat. Then the part that gets squished between the axle nut and dropout, i cut that off. Once i line everything up where i want it/ where it fits i drill a hole it the adapter, and the dropout, and just bolt the s**t together, loctite, and trim excess bolt. Next the part that clamps onto the seat stay tends to have some "slideage" after a couple hard brakes (i.e. playing in traffic) So i, where it lines up to clamp on the the seat stay, cut a little slit in said seat stay, get rid of the clampy part, slide the end into the slit, drill a hole through and bolt. Again loctite, and trim.
In conclusion, your gonna have to put your own flair on it, add a couple washer spacers here or there to make everything line up right. But ive used this system on 4 different bikes now, and have had only 1 problem, which i listed about. If you cant afford 120 - 150 for mag/alum wheels this can be achieved for under 50 usually. You may have some rubbage on the bottom of the caliper from the chain, dont hurt nothing, and its a great way to make your bike stop on a dime. I KNOW that plenty of people will want to criticize this w/o even trying it, but dont, please just dont. I never really realized how discouraging some people can be until i read 4 hours worth of comments here. But if your do have some advice or ideas feel free to post, I'm all about making it better. Im sure im not the first one to do this, but I havent seen it recommended anywhere else. Lastly, i know its a lot of reading so if you made it this far thanks!
Tip Time: Replace all the bolts with high grade whatever. Dont use the stock "butter" bolts. The only bad experience ive had using this setup was the first time i used harbor freight bolts to bolt everything together. Cue a year later, im on my way home from work, in the dark, doing 45, down hill, and my rotor bolts snapped off. It didnt wreck me, but i had no brakes, and it made my chain jump 3 times in 200 yards. I replace the bolts and bam no more problems. Second, if you do this everything must be nice, and super tight, but you also must make sure you dont strip any of the nuts or bolts. They are kinda like domino's. Once one goes its only a matter of time. Third, on the swindler the wheels are 27.5 inches, idk why, its stupid, but they are so you have to use the rubber "pineapple" mounts, but if your doing this on a 26 inch tire i recommend buying the CNC'ed "pineapple" mounts. I did and they worked great. i also filled the gaps where the spokes go with permatex gasket material just to make a little rubber bed for the spokes. Its the little things right?
Bonus Round: To mount the caliper. They make these cheap little adapters to mount the calipers. One end is supposed to go on your rear axle between the axle nut and the dropout. And the other end is supposed to clamp onto the seat stay. Ebay disc brake adapter and youll see what i mean. It'll work that way, but not well. Me personally, I straighten out the weird little bend in it that makes it pop out from the dropouts, so the whole thing is flat. Then the part that gets squished between the axle nut and dropout, i cut that off. Once i line everything up where i want it/ where it fits i drill a hole it the adapter, and the dropout, and just bolt the s**t together, loctite, and trim excess bolt. Next the part that clamps onto the seat stay tends to have some "slideage" after a couple hard brakes (i.e. playing in traffic) So i, where it lines up to clamp on the the seat stay, cut a little slit in said seat stay, get rid of the clampy part, slide the end into the slit, drill a hole through and bolt. Again loctite, and trim.
In conclusion, your gonna have to put your own flair on it, add a couple washer spacers here or there to make everything line up right. But ive used this system on 4 different bikes now, and have had only 1 problem, which i listed about. If you cant afford 120 - 150 for mag/alum wheels this can be achieved for under 50 usually. You may have some rubbage on the bottom of the caliper from the chain, dont hurt nothing, and its a great way to make your bike stop on a dime. I KNOW that plenty of people will want to criticize this w/o even trying it, but dont, please just dont. I never really realized how discouraging some people can be until i read 4 hours worth of comments here. But if your do have some advice or ideas feel free to post, I'm all about making it better. Im sure im not the first one to do this, but I havent seen it recommended anywhere else. Lastly, i know its a lot of reading so if you made it this far thanks!